Wel.. I'd say wait for SA 2.50 wiht bayes support..  It will kick
snortmonsters butt..  IMHO..

It also seemed like snortmonster may have caught more of the under 7 range..
it it also detected less spam
> However, of those, sniffer said 50 were not spam.  Examining them
> reveals that 49 were indeed spam, and one was not.  So SA flagged more
> spam messages as spam


----- Original Message -----
From: "Vivek Khera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Spam Tools" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:03 AM
Subject: [SAtalk] spamassassin v. snortmonster's sniffer


> Having heard some good things about SnortMonster's MessageSniffer, I
> decided to give it a try to see if should use it in place of
> SpamAssassin.  I downloaded the demo yesterday, which has a rule file
> dated December 26, 2002.  SA is running version 2.43 with RBL checks
> off since my inbound server does the RBL blocks I want already, and
> Razor2 on.
>
> I took an archive of 471 messages flagged as spam by SpamAssassin
> (2.43) over the last week from my server and ran sniffer on it.  It
> took 17.36 wall clock seconds (on P3 1.3GHz, 768MB Ram, wicked fast
> SCSI disk running FreeBSD 4.7).  Not all of these messages are
> directed at me.
>
> However, of those, sniffer said 50 were not spam.  Examining them
> reveals that 49 were indeed spam, and one was not.  So SA flagged more
> spam messages as spam, and inadvertently flagged one ligit wanted
> message from that set.  The ligit mail was a form letter from
> Verisign, so it could arguably be called junk, but it was something I
> needed to see.  Luckily they sent it via snail mail as well.  Of the
> 50 messages flagged by SA but not sniffer for the last week, 24 were
> directed at me including the ligit message (as opposed to other people
> on the server).
>
> Next, I scanned 482 spams that snuck through SA and reached my mailbox
> over the last three months (ie, scored < 7.0 in SA).  That took 21.89
> wall clock seconds.  Of those, it said 169 were not spam.  Every one
> of those should be marked as spam, since I manully filed them to that
> folder after reviewing them.  However, 313 of them were flagged as
> spam whereas SA did not flag them.  This is a significant improvement
> of the false negatives from SA over 3 months.
>
> To be fair, let's limit the spam that slipped thru to the last 7 days
> as well: 16 spams reached my mailbox the last 7 days unscathed by
> SpamAssassin and 6 were missed by sniffer (meaning 10 were properly
> flagged).  Of those 6, I can see that 3 of them are "iffy".
> Unfortunately, some porno spams made it through both SA and sniffer.
>
> So if I used sniffer, I'd see 23-10=13 more spams and one more ligit
> message than I would with SA in the last week.
>
> I'm not sure if it is better or worse based on such a small sample.
> Given that the FN rate was much lower over the 3 month archive, I'm
> inclined to think a larger sample could switch the results in favor of
> sniffer.
>
> For now, I'm sticking with SpamAssassin with amavisd.  The management
> load of SA hasn't been significant, and I expect the managment load
> for MessageSniffer would be pretty low as well.  However, if sniffer
> integrated with amavisd-new, that would be a good thing[TM], and I'd
> definitely give it a try in production.  Hmmm.... perhaps sniffer
> could be a scored test within SA...
>
> How have other people's experiences been?
>
> --
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> Vivek Khera, Ph.D.                Khera Communications, Inc.
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