Well.. the whole thing is really a moot point.  Nobody is pointing a gun at
anybody and making them use SA.  Nobody is forcing SA implementers to use
black-lists.

I don't want my employees being solicited via email on company time anymore
than I would let somebody in the front door to go cubicle to cubicle
soliciting.  It is my time, and my resource that the
advertisers/solicitors/spammers waste.

I am also "in charge" of what I want in my personal inbox as well.  I do not
allow solicitation via email anymore so than I do via telemarketers. "Take
me off your call list" *CLICK*

And while I am on my soap-box...  I have rarely, to the best of my
knowledge, received a legitimate peice of "opt-in" solicitous email.
(Things like email lists excluded, etc.)  All are flat-out bogus, or I was
opted-in via dubious "privacy" policies, auto-opt-in for not looking at page
400 of the privacy policy, or not checking the hidden opt-out options 27
pages deep, etc.

So from my perspective it makes no difference if he is "legit" or not.  It's
MY inbox.  I'll do as I please.

Statistics since 11/10/2002 @ 4AM
Number of spams                 : 4792 (30.99%)
Number of clean messages  : 10673 (69.01%)

To the entire SA development and support community...  Thank you

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelsey Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: [SAtalk] Is this a threat? [SA hate mail sent to me]


I just had to pass this along, wonder how many of the other developers got
this?

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Subject: You are way out of line
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While I understand that you have the best intentions, your contribution to
the <A HREF="http://www.spamassassin.org/";>http://www.spamassassin.org/</A>

project has gone very wrong.

Your concept is excellent in theory,  but your filtering requirements are
ridiculous!
Your service is costing legitimate business MILLIONS of dollars a month in
lost
sales due to their customers and optin subscribers NOT getting their mail
because you guys clearly don't have a clue as to what spam is and what is it
is
not.

Perhaps you have a hidden agenda, like stopping legal commerce on the net,
I don't know. It's the only possible explanation that makes sense
considering the things that you filter for.

Legitimate business does use the net you know and filtering out words
like:

credit card, for your, thank you, what you, with your, you for, your
business, your credit, your order, etc. SPAM: and marking it as spam is
ludicrous!

Just remember what happened to the guy that used to run spamcop.com....

You can't justify what you are doing.


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System Administrator                    2260 Apollo Way
707.522.1000 (Voice)                    Santa Rosa, CA 95407
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