>   - more legit-list systems are following Yahoo! Groups lead, and
>     including links to handle unsubbing -- causing false positives.
>     After all, these links are *very* useful for legit-list systems.

Agreed. Topica's unsubscribe links cause trouble too. (And they're legit,
despite reports to the contrary.)

>   - at the same time, spammers are "mutating" their text to avoid the
>     filters -- causing false negatives.

Some of the mutations are great spam indicators. No legitimate mailing list
would include a tagline like "this is emailed speech without prejudice" or
"send a postcard to unsubscribe" or "to be removed, call 1-800-xxx-xxxx".
Perhaps SA should focus more on those and less on simple things like "click
here to unsubscribe".

> There's quite a few patterns in SpamAssassin now that are too broad, in my
> opinion -- these ones, and some of the PORN ones too (cf. the swedish
> newsletter recently which matched "slut" -- IMO no pattern should trigger
> on a single word!).

Except for VIAGRA. :)

> I would like to see them cut back to be more conservative -- but I've been
> away for a while, and can no longer simply wade in with my delete key
> flying ;)

Personally I'd vote for moving the ambiguous ones into a separate file and
scoring them low by default. I would give them all high scores on my
personal system since I whitelist all of the mailing lists I subscribe to,
but we shouldn't expect most users to bother with things like that.

Of course, having negative rules for common mailing list software / systems
would accomplish the same thing. (Not hugely negative, just enough to claw
back a few points.)

--
michael moncur   mgm at starlingtech.com   http://www.starlingtech.com/
"The universe is a big place, perhaps the biggest."         -- Kilgore Trout



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