Thanks for this Guillaume! It's not as easy as one would imagine... Joe
On 6 July 2015 at 21:30, Ed Erhart <[email protected]> wrote: > You might be interested in talking with Graham87 > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham87>, who's done a lot of work > with importing old edits from nostalgia.wiki. > > --Ed > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Guillaume Paumier <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Le lundi 6 juillet 2015, 15:50:21 Joe Sutherland a écrit : >> > It's kind of odd that there's no list anywhere already; I can't be the >> > first person to ask this! But that would be much appreciated Guillaume >> :) >> >> So, I've got a preliminary list, but it looks like we might need to find a >> better way of identifying the creation date than the earliest timestamp, >> because it gives some weird results: >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P895 >> >> Here's an excerpt from the top of the list: >> >> 19700101000000: zhwikisource >> 20010115000000: arwiki >> 20010116200833: enwiki >> 20010116200833: nostalgiawiki >> 20010223175216: enwikibooks >> 20010308131402: elwiki >> 20010317014148: cawiki >> 20010402182741: dewiki >> >> BUT: >> * zhwikisource wasn't created in 1970 (or we've been lied to for a long >> time). >> * arwiki wasn't created before enwiki, and enwikibooks and elwiki weren't >> created before cawiki. >> * nostalgia wiki has exactly the same earliest timestamp as enwiki? >> Suspicious. >> * Some wikis don't return an earliest timestamp at all (?!), see bottom >> of the >> list. >> >> So there definitely are oddities; they're probably due to errors with >> timestamps, or servers losing time, etc. (see >> https://www.facebook.com/gpaumier/posts/10154157729588475 for a similar >> issue >> I recently discovered, and that Tim helped resolve). Therefore, revision >> timestamps are probably not a reliable way to determine the creation date >> of a >> wiki. >> >> As a wikiarchaeologist, I do find this kind of stuff incredibly >> interesting, >> though, so I'll look into it further during my Copious Free Time™, but >> likely >> after Wikimania. (I like the fact that I seem to have inadvertently >> discovered >> a way to identify all edits across wikis with an aberrant timestamp!) >> >> -- >> Guillaume Paumier >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> > > > > -- > Ed Erhart > Editorial Intern > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > -- *Joe Sutherland* Communications Intern [remote] m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu <http://twitter.com/jrbsu> | w: JSutherland <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF)>
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