On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:18:45AM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote:
xx> Not sure if it'd be a good idea or not, but we've never really managed
to collect and maintain a list of "easy hacks" that could be useful for
Google Code-In and, more generally, to ease the access path to Debian.
We've some technical support for it
http://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/GiftTag , but we never managed to
encourage people to tag bugs and then to use the list of tagged bugs in
any useful way. (And possibly the name "gift" is not really appropriate
either...)
Given that you're thinking anyhow to teams who might have GSoC-like
tasks, it *might* make sense to also point them to the gift thingy and
encourage them to tags bug accordingly. But it could also have the
disadvantage of diverting attention to two conflicting initiatives: GSoC
planning and "easy hacks" tagging.
I just wanted to mention this here, as a possibility, but I leave it to
you whether it'd be a good idea to mention both things when contacting
teams or not.
This is a good idea, perhaps it would be worth an easy GSoC project to
make it more visible: modify the BTS, the PTS and whatever else we can
think of, to show gift tagged bugs more visibly. Also writing a few
guidelines on what kind of bugs are appropriate for the tag would also
help, something a bit more elaborate than what's on the wiki at the
moment.
Actually, I thought a bit more about it, and it might be the case that
what we actually want is getting in touch with people who already know
how to collect "easy hacks" and bring wannabe contributors to
them. Something that fits that definition is
http://openhatch.org/
Asheesh (DD, and OpenHatch maintainer), do you see some interest in
connecting the dots among Debian and OpenHatch? In particular, we're
discussing how to encourage people to maintain a list of "easy hacks"
(bugs in the Debian BTS exlicitly tagged as such) that will make it
easier for people to start contributing to Debian.
If there is technical work to be done, do you see any interest in a GSoC
project on the matter?
[ for context, see the sub-thread started at
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/soc-coordination/2012-February/001146.html
]
Hi all,
Sorry about the super long delay.
I think that, after watching use of OpenHatch for a few years, tagging
bugs as 'gift' or 'bitesize' is okay, and something I can work to
encourage within Debian. However, there's a whole ball of unaddressed
social work that needs to be done: finding mentors, and getting mentees up
to the level where working with them is actually fun rather than trying.
OpenHatch, for its part, has been branching out into in-person teaching
events. Now that the university semesters are winding down, I expect we'll
be putting more effort into the web app again. (-:
The initial thing that makes sense is getting those Debian bugs into the
OpenHatch /search/ browsing interface. That can be done by writing some
Python code in our "oh-bugimporters" Python package. I've filed this bug:
https://openhatch.org/bugs/issue727
We've found that many visitors to the site are interested in browsing
projects and communities first, rather than tasks first. We're tracking
that transition here, and welcome contributors. (:
http://openhatch.org/bugs/issue714
I'll be looking into these shortly-ish, weeks-to-months. I encourage
people to join #openhatch on irc.freenode.net and our Devel list
<http://lists.openhatch.org/mailman/listinfo/devel> !
-- Asheesh.
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