Apache SOAP is what IBM uses (and originally created... IBM donated it to 
Apache a while back). 

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For myself I was looking at using apache SOAP on websphere. I was look for
reasons why it would be beneficial rather than just using what IBM 
created.

Thanks
-MJ

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While this is no definitive, expert comparison, here are some things that
come to mind.

.NET
----
1. Best interop with other .NET, including Microsoft extensions to 
standards
2. You can code in nearly every language but Java (with J# coming soon)
3. With Visual Studio.NET, developers barely need to know what they are
doing to get something to mostly work ;-)
4. Runs only on OS platforms supporting .NET (can you guess which ones)

Apache SOAP (really Axis, which is roughtly "Apache SOAP 3.0"
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1. Full source is available
2. Attempts to stick to standards (W3C, IETF, JCP, OASIS, etc.)
3. Client runs on all platforms supporting J2SE, server on J2EE subset

WebSphere
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1. Based on Axis (I hope)
2. Tools to help developer that are not built into Axis

To me, the big question is whether you want to be limited to deploying 
SOAP
services on Wintel platforms, which the decision to go with .NET 
effectively
does.  Yes, I know, Microsoft is releasing a source reference 
implementation
on FreeBSD (which cannot be used for commercial development) and Ximian is
working on a portable .NET based on ECMA specs, but it's hard to imagine
significant .NET adoption anywhere but Win32.

You should also note that, in the Java world, there are implementations
beyond Axis and WebSphere.  FWIW, eWeek just ran a glowing review of WASP
from Systinet, for example.

Scott Nichol

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> What are the advantages to using apache SOAP vs say IBMs SOAP bundled 
with
> websphere or MS SOAP bundled with .NET?
>
> -MJ
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