That'd be ideal, thanks! On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Mike Sheldon <michael.shel...@canonical.com > wrote:
> Okay great, should I prepare a new branch that does the renaming? > > On Mon, 2017-01-23 at 14:34 -0200, Gustavo Niemeyer wrote: > > Sounds good. If you think ubuntu-download-manager is the way to go, > > let's move on with it. > > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Mike Sheldon <michael.sheldon@canoni > > cal.com> wrote: > > > Ah, my mistake. I'd suspect UDM is less likely to change since it's > > > already a public facing API being used in third party apps. But it > > > sounds like we don't lose anything if we start it off as unity8- > > > download-manager whilst bundled with unity8 if we can then add an > > > additional interface once its distributed in its own snap (although > > > I > > > guess that snap would have to advertise itself as providing both > > > interfaces to keep compatibility with existing snaps). > > > > > > I'm not sure if we gain much in this particular case though since > > > we'd > > > need to be maintaining a stable API to work with existing apps > > > regardless? > > > > > > On Wed, 2017-01-18 at 14:24 -0200, Gustavo Niemeyer wrote: > > > > Sorry for not being clear. In addition to the suggestion about > > > > ubuntu-download-manager, I also wrote this: > > > > > > > > "Note that part of the rationale of having unity8-contacts and > > > > unity8-calendar named like that was that these interfaces are > > > likely > > > > to change in meaningful and incompatible ways in the near future. > > > If > > > > the download manager is going to be bundled with unity8, it may > > > be > > > > wise to do the same. We can always introduce a more general > > > interface > > > > later.. not so nice to get out of a general interface that > > > doesn't > > > > work." > > > > > > > > What's your take on it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Mike Sheldon <michael.sheldon@ca > > > noni > > > > cal.com> wrote: > > > > > Sorry, that was my entire point, I guess I should have expanded > > > on > > > > > it a > > > > > bit. I agree with ubuntu-download-manager as a name, since > > > that's > > > > > the > > > > > name developers will be interacting with if they're using our > > > SDK. > > > > > For > > > > > example under QML they're importing Ubuntu.DownloadManager and > > > the > > > > > C++ > > > > > namespace is Ubuntu::DownloadManager. So the interface being > > > named > > > > > ubuntu-download-manager seems perfectly natural to me (in fact > > > this > > > > > was > > > > > the initial name I proposed for it, before it was suggested > > > that > > > > > download-manager might be a better name). > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2017-01-18 at 13:22 -0200, Gustavo Niemeyer wrote: > > > > > > The second part of the point was cut out. Can you please at > > > least > > > > > let > > > > > > us know how you feel about it, so we can be in sync about the > > > > > right > > > > > > decision. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2017 1:02 PM, "Mike Sheldon" <michael.sheldon@cano > > > nica > > > > > l.co > > > > > > m> wrote: > > > > > > ubuntu-download-manager makes sense as a name to me, > > > especially > > > > > as > > > > > > it's > > > > > > one of the APIs in the Ubuntu SDK. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2017-01-18 at 12:34 -0200, Gustavo Niemeyer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The real issue with download-manager is that it's too > > > general. > > > > > We > > > > > > all > > > > > > > have several download managers in our systems, so this > > > gives no > > > > > > hint > > > > > > > of what it's really talking about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can call it ubuntu-download-manager if that's how the > > > > > software > > > > > > was > > > > > > > named. Note that part of the rationale of having unity8- > > > > > contacts > > > > > > and > > > > > > > unity8-calendar named like that was that these interfaces > > > are > > > > > > likely > > > > > > > to change in meaningful and incompatible ways in the near > > > > > future. > > > > > > If > > > > > > > the download manager is going to be bundled with unity8, it > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > > wise to do the same. We can always introduce a more general > > > > > > interface > > > > > > > later.. not so nice to get out of a general interface that > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Mike Sheldon > > > <michael.sheldon > > > > > @can > > > > > > on > > > > > > > ical.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently the interface for UDM (Ubuntu Download > > > Manager) > > > > > has > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > named unity8-download-manager. It's my understanding that > > > > > whilst > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > might initially be bundling UDM within the unity8 snap to > > > > > make > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > first stages of development easier (e.g. so it can talk > > > > > directly > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > unity8's transfer indicator), the long term plan would be > > > for > > > > > it > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > available separately. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having UDM permanently tied to unity8 would seem to add > > > a > > > > > strong > > > > > > > > disincentive for app developers to make use of it at all, > > > as > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > apps > > > > > > > > would then no-longer be portable across different desktop > > > > > > > > environments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As such, I'm wondering if the naming of this interface > > > is > > > > > > perhaps > > > > > > > > misleading? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Snapcraft mailing list > > > > > > > > Snapcraft@lists.snapcraft.io > > > > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.c > > > om/m > > > > > ailm > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > /listinfo/snapcraft > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gustavo @ http://niemeyer.net > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Snapcraft mailing list > > > > > > > Snapcraft@lists.snapcraft.io > > > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com > > > /mai > > > > > lman > > > > > > /l > > > > > > > istinfo/snapcraft > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Snapcraft mailing list > > > > > > Snapcraft@lists.snapcraft.io > > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/m > > > ailm > > > > > an/l > > > > > > istinfo/snapcraft > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Snapcraft mailing list > > > > > > Snapcraft@lists.snapcraft.io > > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/m > > > ailm > > > > > an/l > > > > > > istinfo/snapcraft > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Snapcraft mailing list > > > > > Snapcraft@lists.snapcraft.io > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mai > > > lman > > > > > /listinfo/snapcraft > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > gustavo @ http://niemeyer.net > > > > -- > > > > Snapcraft mailing list > > > > Snapcraft@lists.snapcraft.io > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailm > > > an/l > > > > istinfo/snapcraft > > > > > > -- > > > Snapcraft mailing list > > > Snapcraft@lists.snapcraft.io > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman > > > /listinfo/snapcraft > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > gustavo @ http://niemeyer.net > > -- > > Snapcraft mailing list > > Snapcraft@lists.snapcraft.io > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/l > > istinfo/snapcraft > > -- > Snapcraft mailing list > Snapcraft@lists.snapcraft.io > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/snapcraft > -- gustavo @ http://niemeyer.net
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