sol wrote: > If microwave water is deadly it should be deadly to even hardier plants. > One can't say "you didn't use the right kind of plant". That is fudging. > Because the results are generalized to "any kind of plant" and "human > health". Either microwaved water harms plants or it doesn't. Or if it > only harms "certain" plants and seeds then that is what should be > stated, instead of the blanket statements I've read many times on this > list as to the harmfulness of microwaved water to plants and people per > se. (The plant experiment seems to be basically intended to produce > results that have some application to whether microwaved water is > harmful to humans.) I am not certain anything valid re humans can be > inferred from expeiments with micorwaved water on plants in any case. > > Report on control experiment: > My control experiment seeds are now up and growing. Again 3 pop up peat > pots, again cucumber seeds (all of which in both experiments have been > from the same packet with even more effort in the control experiment to > plant equally sized seeds) this time I only planted 2 seeds per pot, > and was more careful about planting depth, to plant them all as closely > the same as possible. Again one sprout is much taller than the others > (though this time one seed in each pot sprouted on the same day). The > second seeds eventually came up in every pot, but at varying days post > planting. All of these 3 pots were soaked in tap water, and watered with > tap water exactly the same. > > My bean seeds planted in the garden are also showing a lot of difference > in sprouting intervals and in growth rates. All of them were soaked in > tap water, (these are large bean seeds) and are all in the same soil in > the area in which they were planted. Depth varies a lot more in a garden > planting, of course. > > My conclusion is microwaved, boiled, or distilled water apparently makes > no difference to at least these two types of seeds. Further, from my > experiment control, and garden plantings of this year and previous > years, individual seeds vary so much in sprouting times and growth > rates, it is hard to make any valid conclusions at all from simple home > experiments. Certainly to claim the water is at fault if some seeds are > slower, or if some plants die, it would take very controlled conditions > indeed to make a replicatable experiment from which any valid > conclusions could be drawn. In my flower containers are planted several > verbenas, all from the same nursery, all in the same potting soil, one > has died, some are thriving, some are failing to thrive, again all are > watered with the same water. On the basis of my own simple trials, and > observaytions, I think the results seen in tests that seemed to show > harm from microwaved water are far too likely to be simple variability > to be taken seriously as proving microwaved water is harmful to plants.
One possibility is acclaimation. If you sprout seeds in microwaved water they acclaimate to it, and do fine. If you take plants that have been growing on tap water, then switch to microwaved tap water, it may shock them. By the same token if you take plants that have sprouted on microwaved water, then switch them to tap water, that may shock them as well. This is an explaination and experiment I suggested some time ago to check, but I am not aware of anyone doing it yet. > As to ivy being very tough plants, I have an english ivy houseplant that > has struggled for many years. It doesn't quite die, but the darn thing > is anything but tough in my opinion. A little too wet or a little too > dry, and it starts dying at the growing tips and sheds leaves like > crazy. All my other plants grow and grow, but that darn ivy is too > delicate for my lackadasical care. I agree, ivy is a very tempermental plant. My son spent around $50,000 having his whole front yard put in english ivy, and 99% of them have died within 2 years. > > > As a side note, it was very interesting to me that there was some list > involvement and wow factor from posts that claimed harm from micorwaved > water, but only one single post saying "you didn't use the right plant" > to Larry's and later my post that 2 people were unable to duplicate the > results of harm. Could this resounding lack of interest because these > latest results don't fit preconceived ideas? Maybe because they fit what one would expect, whereas the other results were so unexpected. Marshall > > > sol > > larry tankersley wrote: > > > Yes that's true, Ivy is hardy..... For this to be good science i.e. > > repeatability I should have ask , I believe it was Marshal, for type > > plants, stage of growth, soil used and all the other controls needed. > > Wasn't all that serious about it...... good science can be hard work, > > one must be serious in wanting to KNOW if what they THINK is TRUE > > > >larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >
