Jacksonville, and other parts of Fl have quite a few military bases. I noted 
heavily populated areas are hit profusely.  When visiting, I have seen chem 
trails being sprayed in the checkerboard patterns unlike anything I've seen in 
Miami or elsewhere in the world for that matter, and I've seen them in London 
in the same checkerboard patterns.  They are NOT flying at 40k feet.   When 
observed near military installations, the difference between the contrails and 
chem trails exhaust is obvious.......there is no mistaking the two patterns, 
you can often see them flying near each other.  There are some days when a 
clear, cloudless sun filled morning sky becomes overcast and completely 
obscured by afternoon.  But behind the dark grey chem trail coverage, the clear 
blue sky can still be seen.  These clouds sit almost motionless, hovering 
before dissipating into wide fan like coverage. 

Most notably, there is heavy spraying activity right before and after 
Hurricane/storm warnings in Florida which I believe are in some way related due 
to winds and coverage.   

They are relentless, also spraying at night and can be clearly seen during a 
waxing moon phase.
.

Jim Holmes <[email protected]> wrote: 40,000 feet divided by 30 minutes = a 
descent rate of 1333 ft/minute.  That
is 4 miles per hour.   Spray some WD 40, preferably backlit,  and observe
the rate at which the smallest particles fall.  

Note also, there are winds, often of speeds of 50 to 100 hours at different
layers in the atmosphere, that can influence where the mist falls, in
unpredictable ways. 

I think you are making some sort of observational error.  

I do agree that the low level turn and crisscross activity is the true
chemtrail spraying. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>Morgellon Type Illness

Ode Coyote wrote:

>    Irresponsible fuel dumping is sometimes practiced by airplanes and that
> could cause health problems, but that's not a "chemtrail" as presented on
> chemtrail websites.
>   Aerial spraying of pesticides and herbicides is a fact, but that's not a
> "chemtrail" as presented in evidence on chemtrail websites.
>
> Got dumped on and now has MS is not a valid cause and effect relationship.
> [That's a remote possibility, not a fact]
>   She could just as well have eaten mad cow brains five years earlier,
then
> got dumped on with something that had no affect whatsoever..
>
>   Facts of logic:  A "chemtrail" seen at 40k ft can't possibly hit you.
>   A chemtrail that can hit you will never be seen as a chemtrail.  At
best,
> it will look like fog...if you can see anything at all.

Sorry, it is true that a contrail cannot hit you from 40,000 feet, but a
chemtrail certainly can, since most of them are oil based, instead of water.
I
have been hit by them before, it takes about 1/2 hour to reach ground level,
and you can watch them drop the whole way.  When they reach ground level, it
becomes foggy, although the relative humidity reads under 50%.  I have seen
this more than once.  I have literally watched the planes fly criss cross,
that
is for almost an hour you have two planes, one flying nN/S and the other E/W
crisscrossing the sky for an hour, and when they get to the edge of the
city,
they make a 180 degree turn, and go back again. This continues until either
they run out of spray, or the checkerboard is finished. Also almost always
they
will put down a BIG X across the middle of the city before starting.  I have
seen them fly low enough that you can see the spray coming out of nossles
instead of from the engines or wing tips like a normal contrail will do. I
have
seen a nossle get plugged up so that a plane that was putting down 4 lines
of
trails, suddenly only puts down 3 lines, yet has 2 or 4 engines. I have had
my
skin burn when exposed to the spray.  I have seen these planes fly right
next
to a normal airline, and the normal airline puts down a thin con trail that
evaporates in a few seconds, and the other planes put down big thick spray,
that spreads out, and over time completely fills the sky with what appears
to
be feathery clouds, that is you are patient enough, and if there is no wind,
will settle to ground level producing a fog in low humidity.  When they
first
started I checked with the local doctor on his patient load, and every time
they would spray, he would be overwhelmed with patients for the next few
days.

It does not require reading web sites to get evidence, it only takes some
personal observations.  I took pictures of 3 military planes putting down
chemtrails and a commercial jet crossing their path, and you can easily see
the
normal short contrail of the commercial jet, and the big fat never
dissipating
trails of the military planes, which eventually became what appeared to be
clouds.  http://silver-lightning.com/trails2/

Marshall




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