Re: cs>electric recluse spider bite
If I may make a comment of a technical nature (of a different sort).
This sort of post is almost impossible to make sense of because of the
interspersing of comments by different people or comments written at different
times. The chronology of the post and the identity of the poster are important!
The most commonly accepted way of doing this is to insert a ">" at the start of
each line of the previous post. (If you are doing this manually, often it is
only put on the first line of every paragraph.) Your response will not have a
">" preceding it so we will know that it is new material.
So, for a combination of three posts, the original post lines will have >>
preceding them, the reply lines will have > preceding them, and your current
lines will not have any preceding them. Some e-mail programs do this
automatically.
You get the picture.
Thanks,
Dan
Re: cs>electric recluse spider bite
From: Malcolm Stebbins (view other messages by this author)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:29:19
At 08:56 AM 10/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
Malcolm Stebbins wrote:
Marshall; Like it or
not, it is you who are incorrect. I would refer you to any Motors
Manual or Chilton's for a description of the standard and the
transistorized or capacitive discharge systems of auto ignition.
For a good textbook on the subject I'd recommend The Automobile
Electrical System 2nd Ed. by Barr, Randolph R. and Thomas D.
Flocco. Chilton Book Company; Radnor, PA.
Who said anything about a transistorized system?
I was talking about an old spark coil, from something like a 1960's car.
I.E., "Conventional System" Try reading the post and the
suggested material, for a change. BTW, it was you who introjected
the CD system as being similar to a high voltage pulser, hence by faulty
analogy that the 300 + volts from a strobe discharge would produce no
more than the 12 volts from an automobile battery.
Short form: In the conventional or breaker-point ignition system
the primary voltage generated by the rapid collapse of the primary
winding's magnetic field is approximately 200 to 300 volts; this
collapse is considerably more rapid than the originating field buildup,
hence the higher voltage.OK, that is exactly what I was
saying. That when the points open there is a rapid collapse in the
field that generates a voltage of serveral hundred volts, and that is
what gets coupled to the secondary for the spark.
The ignition coil is a transformer
of approximately 100 to 1 turns ratio, thus 20,000 to 30,000 volts is
induced in the secondary winding,Once again exactly what I
said.
On the contrary, you said 50,000 to 100,000 secondary volts was induced
by a primary pulse of 1,000 volts, which was in turn generated by the
collapse of a field generated by virtue of a 12 volt EMF.
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