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CS>Colloidal Master Generator - Opinions
From: Lisa MacDonald
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:22:55

  > Just looking  for opinions about the  Colloidal  Master Generator.
  > Has anyone here used it? What do you like or not like about  it? [
  > www.colloidal-metals.com www.wishgranted.com ]

  > Looking at the information I thought this was what I wanted to buy
  > as it  seemed  to  be the easiest to  use  and  reasonably priced.
  > Everyone seems to really like and suggest the Silver Puppy though.

  > I asked these questions about the Colloidal Master on another list
  > and one  person  thought  that I would need  to  also  purchase an
  > aquarium bubbler for stirring if I were to buy this generator?

  > Any thoughts? Would I be better off with a Silver Puppy?

  > Thanks for any suggestions,

  > Lisa

  Hi Lisa,

  The system looks like it would produce some form of cs, but  I don't
  see how  they  can figure it took fives years to design.  It  is not
  that complicated.

  I seriously question their claims that ion storms can affect the cs.

  It tells me they know very little about ion storms and are trying to
  use that as an excuse for lack of repeatability in their cs. I think
  some of  that comes from the way they drape the electrodes  over the
  side of  the  glass. It would be very  difficult  to  get consistent
  alignment and placement from one batch to the next.

  The silverpuppy  holds the electrodes firmly in place, so  you don't
  have to mess with the alignment.

  To store the cs, they state:

    "It is  best to keep the clear glass canning jar container  or lab
    glass that the colloid is being made in a dark place or covered to
    protect it  from exposure to light. The use of  a  STEEL container
    such as  a  coffee  can or other containers  such  as  large metal
    popcorn corn  containers  like those found at  Walmart  (R). These
    types of containers are thought to be made of tin, however; tin is
    very expensive  and  steel is the metal  most  commonly  used. The
    reason steel is the first choice as a light shield around  the jar
    during production  is  that  steel may  also  deflect  the effects
    emitted by the sun during solar events."

  As Ken  states,  properly made cs does not require  storage  in dark
  bottles:

    "Fact is,  properly made Colloidal Silver is  not  light sensitive
    and any  old glass or hard clear plastic "pop" bottle will  do for
    storage as  long as it is very clean. [Rinse  well  with distilled
    water before using]"

    http://silverpuppy.com/current%20controlled%20CS%20generator.html

  Then they go on with the most incredible gobblygook about the yellow
  color being  caused by plasmon absorption, and quote a  single paper
  on the subject:

    "About the color of colloid"

    To make  sense  of the colloidal silver color issue  I  will quote
    from a   paper   by   "Paul   Mulvaney   -  Berich Strahlenchemie,
    Hahn-Meiter institut,  D  - 1000, berlin,  39,  Germany"  Titled "
    Colloidal Silver: Charge-Transfer Process and Photochemistry"

    "In this report we present some recent results  on charge-transfer
    and chemisorbtion  process on colloidal silver. It has  been found
    that the  surface  plasmon absorption  band  of  colloidal silver,
    which is responsible for the yellow color of silver sols,  is very
    sensitive to changes in the state of the colloid surface."

    "The positively  charged  sols have  a  yellow-brown  color, while
    negatively charged sol particles are a pale yellow.)"

    "The absorption band maxima is shifted to shorter wavelengths when
    the particle  becomes  negatively   polarized.  Thus,  the optical
    spectrum can, in principle, be used to determine whether  a silver
    sol is negatively or positively polarized." "One difficulty  is to
    determine the wavelength of the absorption maximum when  silver is
    uncharged (i.e., at the so-called plasma null point or PNP.)" [End
    quote]

    Colloidal silver  can appear to be light  yellow  to yellow-brown,
    not because  of excessive oxidation as is sometimes  reported, the
    consideration is the surface plasmon absorption band polarization.
    The color  is due to the light refraction of the yellow  to yellow
    brown part of the light spectrum. Colloidal silver can also appear
    as a  clear  solution  such  as  when  the  colloid  is uncharged,
    referred to as "stoichiometric".

  There is  no  way this can be true. It is  technobabble  intended to
  confuse you. The oxide particles form when Ag+ combines with OH-

  Frank key  measures  the  size  of  these particles in  cs  with his
  ZetaSizer, an industry-recognized instrument. It works  by measuring
  the fluctuations in density of a solution caused by Brownain motion.

  The technology  is  well  understood and  is  accurate.  It  is used
  throughout industry and is an invaluable tool for measuring particle
  size in colloids.

  If the  color  were  caused   by  "surface  plasmon  absorption band
  polarization" as  they  claim, the ZetaSizer would  not  work. Their
  claim is simple technobabble.

  I'm not sure what kind of support these people can offer. With these
  kinds of  explanations, I suspect they would try to snow you  if you
  ran into problems.

  I don't  think  I've ever seen anyone from the company  post  to the
  silver list.  I'd  sure like to talk with them about  some  of their
  claims.

  I'd go with the silverpuppy. Ken camps out here, and is available to
  answer any questions about his generator, or about cs in general.

  Ken gives straight answers on cs and knows what he is talking about.

  Note these are only my opinions, which is what you requested.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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