My comments on the Petri dish experiments is limited to the case where ionic silver is being tested against pathogens. Ionic silver is unique because of its strong tendency to combine with chloride. If chloride is not present in the environment then the test is flawed.
I did not mean that all testing in Petri dishes is flawed, only those for ionic silver where chloride is not present. frank key > My understanding that petrie dish was quick easy way to test effect only. A > first step. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Malcolm Stebbins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Anthrax Comment - mesosilver > > > > Hi Catherine; > > Regarding the phrases: ("...but it > > >has nothing what so ever to do with how it will behave inside the human > > >body. All such studies fail to ever mention that fact,...") > > > > What, then, is the point of even making Petrie dishes, much less making > the > > hundreds of thousands of researches within the medical field alone which > > employ petrie dish experiments to explore the possible outcomes of various > > hypotheses? > > Should Petrie dishes be sold only to non-medical users? > > Are all these researchers deceitful, or only those exploring the medical > > applications of various forms of finely divided silver? Is the deceit > > contained in the lack of specificity which the colloidal silver > researchers > > exhibit in presenting their clearly labelled in vitro experiments, or is > it > > contained in the implication that they fail to specifically state (in > > contrast to the more relaxed requirements imposed on the rest of the > > medical research community) That THEIR research is of course totally > > inapplicable to any immediate human therapeautic concerns? Would THAT > > statement be more accurate, or just more consonant with Mr. Key's agenda? > > Perhaps, rather, the deceit is to be found in the rhetoric of Mr. Key's > > categorically emphatic remarks: "...nothing what so ever ..." and: "All > > such studies fail to ever mention that fact ..." > > Let's proceed to the next statement, directly following the above: ("... > > and in fact leave the > > >reader with the false impression that it would work just as well inside > the > > >body. Nothing could be farther from the truth.") > > Which readers are left with what false impression? Well, I'll coin the > > phrase; "All the world are fools, excepting thee and me, and I sometimes > > have my doubts about thee." > > If you find this offensive and demeaning, consider how the rest of "...the > > reader[s] ..." might also feel, and quite justifiably so. > > Before I leave the rhetorical quagmire of Mr. Key's statement, I'd invite > > you to comment on his remark that: "Nothing could be farther from the > > truth...," in the context of the studies referred to, rather than the > > context of Mr. Key's evaluation of all us readers' intellectual > > ineptitude. In other words, do the in vitro studies indicating the high > > efficacy of ionic and/or colloidal silver in Petrie dishes really > establish > > their total, categorical inapplicability to conditions of human > > disease? That would indeed turn the research community on it's collective > > head! > > You may find Mr. Key to be an honest, helpful and dedicated person in his > > response to your queries, and indeed he may well be, but his rhetoric > > SUCKS!! That flaw, if no other, calls ALL of his remarks into serious > doubt. > > My concern here is not to use your posts as once-removed springboards to > > attack Mr. Key's, rather I am dismayed that someone with your high > > dedication and great research capacity would endorse, and thus give > > greater weight to, such self-serving cant. > > Take care, Malcolm > > > > At 06:44 AM 3/2/03 -0800, you wrote: > > > > >Dear Malcolm, > > > > > > > > > You said: > > > > > ><<Hi Catherine, I think it would be worthwhile for you to clarify and > > >delimit > > >your blanket approval of "this" to one or several of the statements > and/or > > >dependent implications Frank Key makes in the first paragraph you quoted; > > >you can nit-pick it as well as I, the first three sentences alone...>> > > > > > > > > > ** This is the statement to which I was referring: > > > > > > >Killing power of ionic silver in a Petri dish may be interesting but it > > > >has nothing what so ever to do with how it will behave inside the human > > > >body. All such studies fail to ever mention that fact, and in fact > leave > > >the > > > >reader with the false impression that it would work just as well inside > the > > > >body. Nothing could be farther from the truth. > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > >Catherine > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/03 > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >
