From: "Judith Thamm" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CS>Failed Experiment
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:49:38 +1030
Do you mean the white powdered extract? I have not tried that as a
fungicide - but I have pestered my poor long-suffering husband into using
the extract as a sweetener in his cups of tea, I use it in baking and
cooking - mainly because it lacks the liquorice taste of the whole leaf
solution. I wouldn't expect the extract to work as well as the whole leaf
solution; one of the characteristics of the leaf is its fungicidal ability.
Judith.
From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Failed Experiment
> Have you tried refined stevia?
>
> Marshall
>
> Judith Thamm wrote:
>
> > Dear Damian,
> > I have also tested CS as a fungicide in our nursery and found that I
got
> > better results from Stevia leaf than CS.
> >
> > Put 2-3 Teaspoons stevia in a litttre of water and let it soak
overnight.
> > Straain and store on a glass bottle. This solution will keep without
> > refirigeration for months. You can boil the leaves and water for 20
ins,
> > but I prefer the cold soak method.
> >
> > I dilute the murky green solution to half water half stevia liquid.
> >
> > Used it for propagating seedlings. [Note now retired from nursery -
gone
> > orgainic instead].
> >
> > Regards,
> > Judith.
> >
> > > Dear Damian,
> > > I have observed, with interest, several postings on
the
> > > list.....that Colloidal Silver is an excellent fungicide. This has
not
> > been
> > > our experience. Several years ago we conducted some efficacy tests
for CS
> > > against 10 specimens of "garden-variety" type fungi.
> > > We used concentrations between 5 ppm and 10ppm. Complete control
resulted
> > > in one case, moderate control in one case......and almost no control
in 8
> > > cases. We did not conduct follow-up tests and our control standards
were
> > > minimal. However, we concluded that---for whatever reason---CS is
not
a
> > > reliable fungicide or algicide. Whether or not....over time....it
is
a
> > > fungistatic, I cannot say......as we did not conduct extended
population
> > > counts to verify UP or DOWN population movements. This was not a
genuine
> > > scientific study and parametric control could not be claimed.
> > > However, simultaneously-conducted bacteria and
virus-based
> > > evaluations (with parametric controls) yielded 100% pathogenic
control
> > > results......sometimes in concentrations as low as .025 ppm/
> > > I am somewhat puzzled as to the claims of CS being a
> > > powerful fungicide. It would be of considerable value to learn of
> > > successful experiments conducted by any list members......or any
research
> > > organization. We would be quite interested to learn the exact
nature
of
> > any
> > > successful protocol where CS was an effective "stand-alone" fungi
control.
> > > We have found H202 (in low concentrations [ 1%]
)
to
> > be
> > > quite effective in controlling algae and a wide range of
fungi-----most
> > > especially anaerobic or near-anaerobic types. Chlorine-based
solutions
> > have
> > > demonstrated (to us) to be exceptionally
> > > powerful in subjugating all fungi and algae......we have tested.
> > > Unfortunately, the human health impact of chlorine-containing
solutions do
> > > not augur well; therefore, wisdom seems to dictate their use ONLY
in
> > > non-potable water circumstances.
> > > Thi has just been our experience in a single
set of
> > > circumstances and does not constitute any form of reliable,
repeatable
> > > evidence.
> > > Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Damian" <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:29 AM
> > > Subject: CS>Failed Experiment
> > >
> > >
> > > > hi all. I finally got around to doing some experimenting with CS.
I
took
> > > > some swabs from my mouth and grew some fungus and other stuff in 4
> > dish's.
> > > > Once the dish's were populated i added 1ml of h2o2 to one, 1ml of
CS
to
> > > > another, and .5 ml of cs mixed with .5ml of h2o2. Now after 2 days
the
> > > only
> > > > one that had an effect is the 1ml of h2o2. Does this mean my CS is
not
> > > made
> > > > properly. Does it mean that CS is not as good as people say? Does
it
> > mean
> > > > that my body is riddled with super toxins?. I noticed that the
straight
> > CS
> > > > seemed to simply plate of onto the fungus stuff. I understand
people
> > have
> > > > added cs to milk and set it allong with one without Cs aside to
see
if
> > it
> > > > went mouldy the results were that the cs prevented this. DOes this
mean
> > cs
> > > > is merely a preventative, not a cure?
> > > >
> > > > I make my cs using 3 9v and a bubbler it is clear and after about
3
> > hours
> > > > it tastes very metalic.
> > > >
> > > > I would appreciate any thoughts. I know i probably didnt handle
this
> > > > experiment as well as i should> next time i shall try and be more
> > precise,
> > > > none the less the results are disappointing. I was also thinking
of
put
> > a
> > > > dish in a pyramid when and if i build one.:-)
> > > >
> > > > Take care all
> > > > Damian
> > > >
>
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