But because the vaccine is injected straight into the blood stream, it
avoids all the body's natural defense systems and therefore *doesn't* arm
the immune system in the way that you describe.  This is where the bad
effects are felt also.  dee


> From: Dan Nave <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 12:53:56 -0600
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: CS> OT health / Big pharma
> Resent-From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:53:55 -0800
> 
> Neville,
> 
> I think you have some of that wrong.  Vaccinations are given precisely
> for the purpose of having the body mount an immune response.  You can
> make a case for problems caused by additives like thimerosol, and
> unintended hitchhiking viruses etc, but these are separate issues from
> the inherent value of vaccines.  One criticism might be that the
> immune system becomes too reactive because of these vaccinations.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Neville Munn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Absolutely 100% spot on, you've got my vote <g>.
>> 
>> I tackled a woman a couple of years ago who had a kid less than one year old
>> and it already had 4 vaccines, and she was lining that kid up for a 5th.  I
>> asked her if she knew that a toddler must develop it's own natural
>> immunities to things as a kid and all those jabs would be doing is impairing
>> or retarding the bodies natural immune development as the kid gets older.
>> Of course I was ignored and considered an idiot - the classic brainwashed
>> dux of the class {opinion}.  She obviously had never considered the fact
>> that the establishment has got it wrong on the odd occasion?
>> 
>> Facts don't lie, if we were helped so much by cholesterol pills,
>> vaccinations, pharma medications blah blah we should be bouncing with
>> health, in fact it's the reverse, cholesterol is causing concern, more
>> people are losing their minds, more people are coming down with diseases
>> that are starting to make a comeback etc etc, we as a civilization are
>> becoming more and more unhealthy and dependant on medications in most cases
>> to keep people alive and functional.
>> 
>> I'm the cook here and if I drop anything on the floor in food preparation it
>> still goes into the pot, my wife goes ape but I ask her how the hell did we
>> ever get past the Neanderthal age if they worried about dropping a leg of
>> mammoth that had been char burnt on an open fire on a *dirt* floor in their
>> caves?  It's become a joke on me here cos I tell the family to get a grip on
>> reality, and besides, I'm helping them develop a great natural immunity,
>> they should be thanking me - LOL.  Bring 'em up tough I say, no room for
>> wooses in this world.
>> 
>> N.
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 21:27:43 -0500
>> 
>> Subject: Re: CS> OT health / Big pharma
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> One of the worst disservices that we have done to ourselves is the childhood
>> vaccine programs, not that there haven't been some good things about them
>> (small pox/polio)  but...   Most of us enter adulthood with immature immune
>> systems.  An oversimplification for sure, but one could say that developing
>> cancer is a failure of the immune system.  Children used to play outside in
>> the dirt, etc..  their mothers didn't haul them off to the doctor's office
>> for a magic pill every time they developed a little case of sniffles.  Years
>> ago, most people didn't  have access to tylenol etc. to lower children's
>> temps.  Minor childhood diseases can serve a useful purpose.  I did say
>> minor childhood diseases.. diseases  that are more disruptive and
>> aggravating (like chicken pox or mumps) than dangerous.   'They' say we, of
>> all preceding generations, live in almost pristine, sterile living
>> conditions compared to our forefathers.  Has that made us a healthier
>> population?
>> 
>> There was an article in the news a few years back that stated that cancer
>> researchers discovered that people who took antibiotics were more likely to
>> develop cancer, the implication being that somehow, taking a lot of
>> antibiotics could cause cancer.  I think they got the cart before the horse.
>> The fact that more people who took antibiotics developed cancer is a given
>> if you reverse the theory.  That is...   because of a weakened or immature
>> immune system or response, these people would become sick more often than
>> others (requiring more antibiotic therapy)  and they would fall prey to
>> cancer also because of a weakened or immature immune system.  In my opinion,
>> if not for the immune response in human beings, the race would have become
>> extinct a long time ago.  So, between an immature immune system and a toxic
>> environment, we seem to be sicker than ever.   Lola H.
>> 
>> 
> 
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