I don't think that H2O2 or Oxyclean qualify as "reducing agents" since
they are oxidizers.
Dan
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Ode Coyote
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I see quite a number of mis-truths in the manual.
>
> Electrolysis using only pure water and pure silver makes no
photo-reactive
> compounds, thus no need for colored glass to store it.
>
> The photo showing particles was done using a TEM which requires
drying the
> sample which CREATES those particles of silver oxide...they weren't
in the
> water at all.
>
> Adding H2O2 to a fresh batch will make it flash brownish...likely
> Tetrasilver Tetroxide, a patented germ killer that is touted to
work by in
> vivo ion exchange.
> Their reducing agent might be similar to "Oxyclean" an H2O2 based
bleach.
> [Turn your Golden hair into Platinum and have even more fun, girls. ]
> The "non measurable particles" would be a form of silver oxide.
[There are 4
> or 5 different forms of silver oxide ]
>
> It's Silver Oxide that makes CS look yellow or amber...the same
black stuff
> that collects on one electrode when using the DC method and makes
the golden
> mist when the current density is too high so that it forms in the water
> instead of staying on the electrode.
> If you dip a black electrode in H2O2, it destroys that black stuff
just like
> it clears out the yellow /amber color out of the CS.
>
> Scrubbing the electrodes is a shear waste of silver.
> The dull appearance is due to pitting of the surface, not
> contamination...so, bulldoze a mountain to remove a creek bed?
>
> Their method for using the TDS meter is backwards, but may give a
nearly
> accurate number by accident if done under the right conditions.
> ..makes the CS look stronger than it really is.
> I think that both the ions [Ag+] AND anions [OH-] add conductivity
and they
> will reach a balance of mutual encounter probabilities according to
> concentration. [the max being 30 uS ]
> Â Also "some"Â silver oxide will dissolve in the water and stay
that way,
> adding to conductivity and not making particles big enough to be
seen...but
> not much.
> The number you get from a meter doesn't match the number derived
from an aa
> spectrophotometer [which ACTUALLY measures PPM, but doesn't
differentiate
> forms of silver ]Â until the conductivity stops dropping.
>
> That's counting apples to see how many oranges you have, but both
fruits are
> about the same size. [once the lemons and limes that CAN turn into the
> oranges you are trying to count, turn into those oranges ]
>
> More?
>
> What stir rate does to the numbers and size of silver hydroxide chunks.
> Why Fred Sprauge [now deceased] who once made the illustrious
microprocessor
> controlled Custom Electronics LLC "Smart Silver" generator changed his
> stirrer to a direct copy after trying to figure it out for 7 years.
>
> What electrode tip discharge does to current density and electrode
erosion.
> [Bend those tips slightly away from each other and the electrodes
will last
> a lot longer...better yet, get the tips out of the
water...something else
> that the "Smart Silver" copied and Fred admitted to.]
>
> Â "Sorry 'bout that Ode"..It's OK Fred.
> We both learned something when we traded units and mixed the parts.
> He was a good guy with a good product that didn't need distortions and
> emotional manipulation to sell itself.
> Who better to share a market with ?
>
> Ode
>
>
>
> At 10:52 AM 4/22/2012 -0700, you wrote:
>
> http://www.silverlungs.com/latest_user_manual_hm_ez_v.pdf
>
> The manual for SilverLungs describes adding a "reducing agent" to
convert an
> ionic solution to a colloidal silver. They have a photo of it
turning amber
> color. Any idea what it is, and if it is legit?
>
> David
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