very good response
________________________________ From: David AuBuchon <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 11:45:09 AM Subject: Re: CS>CS Doubt. I took 40,000units a day of EMULSIFIED vitamin D3 from biotics for a length of 2 weeks. I did it at the recommendation of a lyme nutritionist. I told her I thought it was bad for me, but she convinced me anyway. In that time, me 25hydyoxy vit D levels went from 20 to 102. The reference range is like 30 to 75. I believe emulsified works much better than regular because of this experience. So with people with infectious disease, some of them DO NOT do well supplementing vitamin D. Some of them do do well though. The explanation of why is called the Marshall Protocol, which sort of partially succeeds in explaining it. This 25hydroxy vit D is NOT what your body uses. Your body then converts it into 1,25 dihydroxy vit D, which is a steroid hormone. This is the vitamin D you must also measure, but no one ever does. In high levels, this vitamin D SUPPRESSES the immune system. Some bacteria have learned to accelerate this conversion of vitamin D in order to suppress the immune system. So many people with infectious disease have low levels of 25 hydroxy D but high levels of 1,25dihydroxy vitamin D. My levels for example of each respectvely were 20 (low) and about 60 (borderline high). This indicates that bacteria could have been converting one to the other. After supplementing, it was GOING IN THE SUN that would make me very sick for a few days. This is was people like me sometimes experience and learn to keep away from vitamin D after that. Before taking vitamin D the sun would not bother me nearly as much. That is the second indication I had. The third indication I had that vit D was bad for me is that I would get some herx reactions from a drug named Benicar. It is a blood pressure drug with an off label use in the Marshall Protocol. It block the conversion of the 1st vit D into the 2nd vit D. Taking it then lowers the levels of the second vit D, which UNSUPPRESSES the immune system, which causes it to kill bugs and give herx. The moral of the story: vit D is very good for most, but can be very bad for some. Im getting into health consulting, and I am not planning on ever recommending vit D to anyone without first probing them for infections with CS or something else, or at least checking BOTH their D levels. ~David http://scientificliving.net/ On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:57 AM, jaxi <[email protected]> wrote: My understanding about chocolate in dogs is that some are impacted more than others AND there is a cummulative effect issue at hand. I think it was something along the lines that dogs cannot process and eliminate the chocolate and so small exposure will likely not harm but repeated and often could. But I know of dogs who have consumed entire bags of chocolate (say Hershey's Kisses or some such) and been fine in the long run. > >Vit D in large amounts is supposedly toxic for dogs too. > >Too much of anything tends to be bad for you. Human, dog, cat, mouse ... >Jaxi > > >On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Dave Darrin <[email protected]> wrote: > >Over the years ( I'm 75) I have given my dogs chocolate when ever I ate some >and >they all lived an extraordinarily long life. It makes me wonder if that has a >basis in fact or if it was an old fable that has been mindlessly repeated, >like >the 650 about CS's effectiveness? >>Dave >> >> >> >> >> >>On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Guyot Léna <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Chocolate is dog poison, but in small amounts it makes most humans very >>happy. >>> >>> >>>On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Alan Jones wrote: >>>This is bollocks, everything is a poison at high enough quantities, even too >>>much water can kill you. Vit D3 is safe at under 5000IU per day. >>> >>> >>> >>>Alan >>> >>> >>>On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:36 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Vitamin d3 is a mouse poison, look up vitamin d3 mouse poison by tom cat >>>>brand >>>>and see if your vitamin d3 has the same ingredient.. cholecalciferol >>-- >>>Alan Jones >>> >>>"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor >>>prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or >>>to >>>the people." (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) >>> >>> >> >
