Hi Mike,

  I don't know if you got my email on archiving the  silverlist. Maybe
  my new email service still has some kinks in it, so I'll try posting
  this.

  Archives are  extremely  valuable. They permit  newcomers  to browse
  them and  search for information, and to learn much  more  than they
  could without them. That's how I got started, and the  information I
  got from reading Tai-Pan and the others was invaluable.

  Newcomers often  ask the same questions over and over  again. People
  get tired of giving the same answers, and a lot of  good information
  never gets  passed along. For example, David has some  very eloquent
  arguments regarding  Argyria,  but   he  simply  has  refrained from
  wasting his  time in the recent discussions on this topic.  I'm sure
  others may  feel the same. However, if the posts  were  archived, it
  would be  easy to collect the best discussions and  simply  point to
  them in a post.

  Having archives  means keeeping a lot of good  information  that now
  gets lost.  Links   to   important  information,  favorite products,
  descriptions of  procedures,   results   of  experiments,  and other
  valuable information could be kept safe for everyone to use.

  Browsing the  archives  often  prompts questions  that  can  lead to
  discovery of  new  information. This is much  less  likely  when the
  posts are  read  once   and   possible  discarded  or  perhaps saved
  somewhere on  your  hard disk. But if you do save them,  how  do you
  search them efficiently?

  I hope  this  gives some good reasong why the  silverlist  should be
  archived. But  the suggestion I made to use Google Groups  turns out
  to be a bad idea. Google deliberately design the software to make it
  impossible to do what needs to be done. In prticular, they ony allow
  searches in  web  pages, not in files. This means a  new  page would
  have to  be created for each post, and the contents pasted  into the
  page. That would be too much work for anyone.

  But I  found  another solution. There is a free  mail  list archiver
  that provides all the features we need. It indexes the posts by date
  or thread,  and has excellent search features, much better  than the
  old eskimo search that only allowed one word and it had to be longer
  than three characters.

  Here is an example of a date index:

  Messages by Date

  <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html>

  and an example of a threaded index:

  <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/index.html>

  The service  had  been  available since 1998,  and  is  supported by
  advertising. The equipment is excellent, and they do backups often.

  They allow  you  to download the archives so you can  keep  your own
  local storage.

  Their uptime  is excellent, and they have uptime records  going back
  many years. The operation is highly professional and is the  best of
  all the similar operations I was able to find.

  They strip  the  headers and email address from  the  post  so email
  harvesters cannot  grab the email address and spam  everyone  on the
  list. They  do provide a button at the bottom of the post  so people
  can contact the poster. This exposes the email address, but  I guess
  it is not much different than subscribing to the silverlist when all
  the addresses are exposed to anyone who receives the posts.

  If you look at a typical post, you can see they stripped the headers
  and provide the search function on each page:

  <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg07053.html>

  The best  part comes last. You don't have to jump  through  hoops to
  start archiving  the messages. Just subscribe them as you  would for
  any person,  and  they do the rest. Here's the blurb  on  their home
  page:
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Archive your mailing list

  Looking for an easy way to turn your mailing list into  a searchable
  archive? Just  add  [email protected]  as  a  member  to your
  mailing list as described in the how-to-guide.

    http://www.mail-archive.com/
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  I hope this reaches you, and you will consider giving them a try.

  Best Regards,

  Mike M.


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