CS>OT... but important!

Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:29:13 -0800 

Monsanto's GMO Corn Linked To Organ Failure, Study Reveals
In a study released by the International Journal of Biological Sciences, analyzing the effects of genetically modified foods on mammalian health, researchers found that agricultural giant Monsanto's GM corn is linked to organ damage in rats.
According to the study, which was summarized by Adam Shake at Twilight Earth, "Three varieties of Monsanto's GM corn - Mon 863, insecticide-producing Mon 810, and Roundup® herbicide-absorbing NK 603 - were approved for consumption by US, European and several other national food safety authorities."
Monsanto gathered its own crude statistical data after conducting a 90-day study, even though chronic problems can rarely be found after 90 days, and concluded that the corn was safe for consumption. The stamp of approval may have been premature, however. 

In the conclusion of the IJBS study, researchers wrote:
"Effects were mostly concentrated in kidney and liver function, the two major diet detoxification organs, but in detail differed with each GM type. In addition, some effects on heart, adrenal, spleen and blood cells were also frequently noted. As there normally exists sex differences in liver and kidney metabolism, the highly statistically significant disturbances in the function of these organs, seen between male and female rats, cannot be dismissed as biologically insignificant as has been proposed by others. We therefore conclude that our data strongly suggests that these GM maize varieties induce a state of hepatorenal toxicity....These substances have never before been an integral part of the human or animal diet and therefore their health consequences for those who consume them, especially over long time periods are currently unknown."
Monsanto has immediately responded to the study, stating that the research is "based on faulty analytical methods and reasoning and do not call into question the safety findings for these products."
The IJBS study's author Gilles-Eric Séralini responded to the Monsanto statement on the blog, Food Freedom, "Our study contradicts Monsanto conclusions because Monsanto systematically neglects significant health effects in mammals that are different in males and females eating GMOs, or not proportional to the dose. This is a very serious mistake, dramatic for public health. This is the major conclusion revealed by our work, the only careful reanalysis of Monsanto crude statistical data."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Annie B Smythe" <[email protected]> 
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Chemistry question ?
LMAO Steve, my head is spinning. Just something that is safe to consume without poisoning myself:) 

Annie
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) 


Norton, Steve wrote:

Are you considering Magnesium Chloride that is specified as laboratory
grade and not just technical grade?  Here is a definition of grades from
a chemical supplier that defines laboratory grade:

" DEFINITION OF GRADES

Reagent ACS -- Meets or surpasses latest American Chemical Society
standards for purity. Reagent -- Does not exceed maximum limits of significant impurities as stated. Does not have ultrastringent requirements of Reagent ACS. Laboratory Grade -- Equivalent in purity to United States Pharmacopeia 
(USP) and National Formulary (NF) listings. However, they are not
offered for food, drug, or medicinal use of any kind. Practical Grade -- Sufficiently high quality for use in many syntheses and other applications. Technical Grade -- Selected commercial grades, scrupulously clean, and 
of reasonable chemical purity. Where usable, most economical grade and
suitable for educational purposes."

There is Magnesium Chloride used for de-icing roads and sidewalks that I
would be hesitant to consider for use. I would definitely want to see an
MSDS or assay for it. - Steve N

-----Original Message-----
From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:06 AM 
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>Chemistry question ?

Thank you Steve:)
I've been looking for Magnesium Chloride so I can make it up by the half gallon or gallon, and all the 'grade' terminology is a little confusing. I know pharmaceutical grade and food grade are ok for consumption, and I figured lab grade would have to be mostly pure, but I wasn't sure that technical grade wasn't just another name for lab grade, and what do they use technical grade for anyway? I just don't want to use the wrong thing. :/ 


Annie
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." (Sign hanging in Einstein's office at Princeton) 


Norton, Steve wrote:

Here is a good source of info:
http://yarchive.net/chem/chemical_grades.html

I frequently use reagent grade chemicals internally. If you go to the
FDA definition of allowable pharmaceutical grade impurities you will

see

almost no difference between reagent and pharmaceutical grade

chemicals.

Actually pharmaceutical grade is often less stringent than reagent
grade. That is because reagent grade chemicals are often used in

making

pharmaceuticals.
A main issue is the amount of heavy metals in the chemical. Usually

you

can request a copy of an assay of the reagent or technical grade
chemical and see what if any heavy metals are present. If you use
chelators regularly (bentonite, ALA, chlorella, etc) you may not be as
concerned about heavy metals.
Reagent grade is a higher purity than technical grade. From thr

Sci-Tech

Encyclopedia:

"Commercial chemicals are available at several levels of purity.
Chemicals labeled "technical" or "commercial" are usually quite

impure.

The grade "USP" indicates only that the chemical meets the

requirements

of the United States Pharmacopeia. The term "CP" means only that the
chemical is purer than "technical." Chemicals designated "reagent

grade"

or "analyzed reagent" are specially purified materials which usually
have been analyzed to establish the levels of impurities. The American
Chemical Society has established specifications and tests for purity

for

some chemicals. Materials which meet these specifications are labeled
"Meets ACS Specifications."

I do use some technical grade chemicals where it is not possible or it
is difficult to get reagent grade. And I do use chelators. When

deciding

to use a technical grade I try to get a copy of an assay.  If no assay
is available and the amount used is low and the purity is reasonably
high I might still use it. There is no absolute answer to your

question.

 - Steve N


-----Original Message-----
From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:08 AM 
To: CS List
Subject: CS>Chemistry question ?

Question for chemistry knowing folks.
What's the difference between technical grade and food grade? Is technical grade the same as lab grade? And would technical grade magnesium chloride powder to be unsafe to make a solution from for a person to drink as magnesium supplementation? Any impurities or anything? 


Annie




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