[FW][RE]CS>Liposomal Vit C:COMMENT

Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:27:38 -0700







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Subject : [RE]CS>Liposomal Vit C:COMMENT

Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:30:40 -0400 (EDT)

From : "Brooks Bradley" <[email protected]>

To : "J&S Campbell" <[email protected]>



Dear Sheila,

Your question has been asked by others....(private inquires addressed directly to me). In the interest of saving me time and energy, I offer the following explanation. First, soy lecithin is a "slow" incorporator, when introduced into aqueous mediums....sometimes. Especially, when there is a high

lecithin granule population ratio----relative to the total water volume. The general reaction is that a major percentage of the lecithin blends readily with the the water medium, but there will remain a definitive lecithin component which floats on the surface and exhibits a somewhat "gelatinous" appearance (this is quite natural, based upon the native characteristics of the substances involved). Do not fret over encountering such circumstances......they will not compromise the basic effectiveness of your protocol. However, it is of some import to understand that the speed, and completeness, of the incorporation of the granular lecithin---into the aqueous medium, is affected by a number of conditions such as the total amount of lecithin versus the total volume of water; the temperature of the water-based solution and the strength of any other substance being incorporated into the parent solution----from very weak, to saturated (none of which are seriously comprom! ising). Under the best of conditions, even after ultrasonic mixing for 8 to 9 minutes....there is, often, a thin meniscus (a distinct separation between two or more liquids in the same container). [Example: a thin layer of oil lying on top of water.] In the liposome generation methodology we are discussing, the visible, gelatinous, portion of the meniscus is principally made up

of unincorporated lecithin. Is IS NOT a problem....in fact the lecithin component has useful, cardiovascular, health-support effects----beyond those being discussed here.

Either (or both) of two measures may be executed to reduce the volume of unincorporated lecithin you may be encountering. First, increasing the volume of the total water fraction, or secondly, raising the temperature of the total parent solution

and extending the time of US reaction exposure. One reason for the condition you are encountering is that the closer one gets to achieving a saturated solution of lecithin....the more resistant the process becomes to accepting more granular lecithin into that solution-----until the point is reached where no further material will incorporate---hence, THE SATURATION POINT IS EXPERIENCED.

In my brief, original post, I did not discuss the nuances of speed, degree or completeness of dissolution of the lecithin----or for that matter--- the ascorbic acid fraction. Neither did I outline a number of other considerations; such as the effects of varying the volume of water versus the ratios of the solution components....or the total water volume versus the protocol components....primarily, because such elaborations would not serve usefulness/effectivity for the nontechnical

DIY person. I simply outlined a SAFE, mid-spectrum, protocol allowing the average lay-person to achieve a measure of acceptable results for home experimental research.

My personal bias is that it is better to have a small, uncombined, lecithin fraction presenting as a meniscus.....than to strive toward what I perceive to be a cosmetic achievement----of small consequence.....by means of diluting the total

solution. In any event the excess lecithin is a positive addition.....it is just not

active in the liposome process-----until some parameter changes that avails it the opportunity participate in the encapsulation process.

My final comment on this subject: If it is of paramount importance to one,

regardless of reason.... by just increasing the water volume and reactivating the US Cleaner for several minutes....the remaining lecithin will (in almost all cases) go into the emulsified solution. However, bear in mind, you have diluted the entire solution by an equivalent

strength-----with NO increase in total vitamin C component.

Please understand, these comments are not meant to browbeat "anyone"....in any way....but, rather, to aid the less technically-informed on the list.

Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.










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Subject : CS>Liposomal Vit C


Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:06:42 +0100


From : J&S Campbell <[email protected]>


To : [email protected]





Am I being thick here, I can't get soya lecithin granules to dissolve in water, does it come in another form in the US? Or can I just leave it to the ultrasonic cleaner do the business?





I've found an ultrasonic cleaner over here in the UK if anyone is interested, £39 for a 2.4litre model, down the page:





http://www.ultrasonic-clean.co.uk/index1.html





Thanks so much Brooks, as always, for telling us about this.





BW,





Sheila








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