On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 13:34 +0300, ashok _ wrote:
> the funny thing i notice about italians (and i meet many of them...)
> is that nobody
>  admits voting for berlusconi's party, yet he keeps coming back.

kinda like bush, no? guess we just meet the wrong (right?) kind of
people.

> the other thing is there is a massive disparity between what common
> people actually earn and things like cost of buying[...]
> (i mean, you could be earning a salary of 1,000 euros...[...]paying a rent of 
> 800 euros for a very tiny apartment...)

i think this is particularly italian. salaries are low compared to
living costs everywhere in western europe (perhaps with the exception of
switzerland) but italian salaries are particularly low while living
costs seem ridiculously high, though it's mainly literally _living_
costs - rent - in big cities. food etc is much cheaper.

i'm sure part of the reason (and result) is the enormous black economy
in italy, but typically this means people with regular salaries from
regular companies with the lowest possibilities for money-on-the-side
suffer the most.

we frequently get requests from collaborators in italian universities to
provide private subcontracts with them rather than working through their
universities, which is not something we can usually do though we
sympathise...

-rishab


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