On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:46 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> say. The people who turn you away from temples think that they are the
> arbiters of Hinduism, But they are not the arbiters of Hinduism any more than
> the people who are turned away from temples.

They call themselves Hindu, and who are you or I to say otherwise?

> Your statement seemed to accept that the people who turned you away from
> temples were the arbiters of Hinduism.

I accept that they call themselves Hindu, and that they have set
themselves up as arbiters of Hinduism. Do you *not* think they are
Hindu? It seems very straightforward to me. If Hinduism is the
ultimate decentralized religion, then these people are as Hindu as any
other - and they pretty obviously do think there is some standard of
Hinduness (and that race and skin color are a component.)

Now perhaps I'm confused, but it seems to me that the "ultimate" in
decentralization would not have quite so many authoritarians. I wish
Hinduism were as decentralized as you say, but  my experience of it
was different.

I also think you may be unaware of other rather more explicitly
decentralized religions. Quakers and Unitarian Universalists come
immediately to mind.

> Furthermore I get the impression that
> you think I somehow belong to the group that turns you away from temples.

However did you get that impression? I think you may be reading more
into what I'm saying than I intend.

> That is why you make a rather strong accusation that "I am trying to have it
> both ways" in which there is centralization and I am claiming
> decentralization.
>
> If you take a deep breath and read what I am trying to say before shooting off
> a reply - it is entirely possible that you might see what I am trying to get
> at. Let me try again.
>
> Hinduism is decentralized. In that decentralized environment any number of
> people have taken it upon themselves to claim ownership of Hinduism. And one
> group among those self appointed owners of Hindusim are the people who have
> made you so worked up and angry (with me too?) - i.e the people who turn you
> away from temples.
>
> shiv
>
>

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