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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thaths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My opinions:
>
> 1. Hardcore, technical topics (like Cox's or Welte's talks) tend
to
> draw bigger audiences in India because of the perceived potential
> monetary outcome of knowing the skill being talked about.

Ok, so?  Free software isn't against making money.

> If one of the lesser known Open Source people were to speak on a
non-technical,
> but important topic say, copyright term extensions, I would bet
that
> the talk will draw a significantly lesser crowd.
>
The same applies to any conferences anywhere I think.  But the point
is to increase awareness and just knowing there is an organized
community for software freedom makes an impact.  You cannot expect
political awareness to happen overnight.  Not in India, or the US or
anywhere.  The important thing is to get the concepts out there.


> 2. For most attendees, Linux is a skill (not that there is
anything in
> approaching it as a skill) and not a passion or lifestyle. In
other
> words, hackerhood is a relatively smaller phenomenon in India at
this
> stage. This is partially because the schooling system tends to
drain
> the passion out of students and makes them into automatons who
> regurgitate memoried facts to gain higher marks. The pressures of
> getting into a good college and getting a well-paid and steady job
> drain whatever passion remains. Under these circumstanses, it is
> extremely difficult to keep one's inner geek alive. This is one of
the
> reasons why geeks that are passionate about Open Source have
tended to
> be from the upper socio-economic strata of Indian society - they
were
> economically safe enough to afford their pursuing their passions.
>

Why do you think this a feature of Indian society only?  Look at any
gathering of American geeks and it will be overwhelmingly White,
well-to-do, suburban types.  The media over here has reported
extensively on the drastic drop in students pursuing IT degrees.
This is because most of them were "mark-seeking automatons."

I can tell you that I met with many young people at foss.in who were
very enthusiastic about Free software.  I am trying to mentor as
many of them as I can so we can keep that enthusiasm up.

> 3. India is undergoing accelerated social and economic change.
> Entirely new careers are opening up for the young people today. I
> think with time - I would hazard to guess 5 to 10 years - life
would
> be less precarious in India to let more young geeks follow their
> dreams.
>

If it is truly their dream, they will follow it regardless of the
financial cost.  I think events like foss.in are tremendously
supportive in keeping such dreams alive.  Being able to meet the
likes of Alan Cox really boosted the morale of some of the young
people I talked to.  Being in the presence of hundreds of
like-minded peers is also a morale boost.

It reminds me a lot of some of the Linux events we had in the US in
the 90's when we were just lone weirdos using a strange
funny-looking non-Windows OS.  When we got together we would realize
that actually we were not alone but part of a dynamic global
community.  The Linux juggernaut you see today was a direct result
of those efforts and the same process will occur in India.

> 4. IMO, FOSS.IL nee Linux Bangalore have concentrated more on the
> splash they make than the impact they have on young hackers. There
is
> nothing wrong in this shock-and-awe approach. It just isn't the
right
> one to foster more Open Source participation, especially in terms
of
> code, from hackers in India.
>

We are going to have atleast five more Debian developers in India
directly because of foss.in. KDE India was founded at foss.in.
Gentoo has gotten a lot of interest due to foss.in.  That's
impressive.  That's impact.  Yes it cannot be the sole means of
pushing free software, but it is an important part and deserves more
respect than you are giving it.





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