Clearly I cannot afford this but I still want to test the
longevity/sustainability of this decision - that USD 500 is enough.

Can you convince yourself that you receive 500 dollars worth of health,
motivation and resilience benefits to withstand 180 seconds of 12-15
centigrade water every. Single. Day. for a week?

My assumption is that you’ll decide it isn’t worth it, even for USD 500.

My motivation for cold showers (6 months of pure agony, I’ll add) is
twofold and deeply personal -watching my father die -cancer- and be
miserable about being cold, and my own mental health benefits enormously
from it (it is the hardest thing I can do in a day, everything else is a
piece of cake). But no amount of money would incentivise me to do this.

Huda Masood
+91 9886796967


On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 02:37, Charles Haynes <charles.hay...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I would do the shower thing for somewhere between USD$100 and USD$500 per
> day. ($100 is probably not enough, $500 definitely is.)
>
> One learning about money is that looking at investments daily makes me
> unhappy and that for me the "asymmetry of happiness" is real - that losing
> $100 makes me more unhappy than winning $100 would (and it's not just about
> the non-linearity of the value of money, but it may be an endowment
> effect). So in circumstances where good and bad things are both likely to
> happen relatively frequently I try to "smooth out" the frequency by
> checking less often.
>
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 07:52, Huda Masood via Silklist <
> silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:
>
>> Tell me then, in what other areas of your life have you applied the new
>> learnings with money?
>>
>> I find the human relationship with money extraordinarily interesting. My
>> current social experiment is asking how much could I pay them to take a 3
>> minute cold shower every day, for a whole year. No hot water before or
>> after.
>>
>> I’ve had no takers so far. Everyone wriggles out with some condition or
>> the other. No amount of money is incentive enough.
>>
>> But they’d happily do it if family was in danger or they could work half
>> time for the same pay.
>>
>> I find that very telling.
>>
>> Huda Masood
>> +91 9886796967
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 18:27, Christopher A Kantarjiev via Silklist <
>> silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/24/24 10:16 PM, Udhay Shankar N via Silklist wrote:
>>>
>>> > Very interesting thought. The most thought-provoking part is "changing
>>> > your mental model" which resonated with me, because the mental model
>>> > which causes this to be an issue in the first place is "Am I being
>>> taken
>>> > advantage of?" (which is completely different from "Can I afford
>>> this?"
>>> > which requires a separate thread, I think.)
>>>
>>> Yes ... I grew up in a household where my father tracked every penny of
>>> expenses and basically invented a double-entry bookkeeping system so he
>>> could resolve his cash accounts Sunday night. I guess it was "fun" for
>>> him, but hell for everyone else when he wandered the house saying "where
>>> did I spent twelve cents?".
>>>
>>> It came both from a history of not having enough (he lived through WWII
>>> in Germany) and a fear of being taken advantage of ... which I, somewhat
>>> unfortunately, inherited.
>>>
>>> Those two things were very intertwined in my attitude towards money, and
>>> this experience was a big step in learning to let go of them.
>>>
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