Greg Epstein is the secular chaplain at Harvard (served as chief chaplain) and wrote Good without God”. As with many Atheists he is very knowledgeable about religious practices. There are also some good YouTube channels like “Religion for Breakfast” that to into deep discussions including what do we mean by “religion”. Where do Buddhism and Confucianism fit into a deistic framing?
Greg’s events, as with some Unitarian and others are already religion-like for atheists who are seeking community. I would argue that even for many who claim to be theists (or spiritual), it is the community that is important and god just a placeholder. We can have a longer discussion on belief systems, but I wanted to focus here on the community aspects. And tribalism … From: Silklist <silklist-bounces+silklist=bobf.frankston....@lists.digeratus.in> On Behalf Of Charles Haynes via Silklist Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 18:56 To: Intelligent conversation <silklist@lists.digeratus.in> Cc: Charles Haynes <charles.hay...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Silk] A religion for atheists Hi Tim, In that piece you seem to be conflating "Faith" and "Religion." Do you think that faith always implies religion? I personally define faith as "things I believe that are true but that I can't prove" and it seems to me that doesn't particularly imply religion - unless you define religion so broadly that it becomes the same as faith. To be clear, my training has been in math and computer engineering, and math in particular is rooted in faith - though we call them axioms. For a long time I was a member of a religion that rejected the Axiom of Choice. I was a Strict Constructivist. I gave that up fairly quickly, and now am part of the mainstream that accepts ZF+C. — Charles On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 06:23, Tim Bray via Silklist <silklist@lists.digeratus.in <mailto:silklist@lists.digeratus.in> > wrote: In which I argue against the whole notion of “Faith”, with pretty pictures: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/08/24/On-Faith That piece does however recommend worshiping trees. On Jan 14, 2024 at 12:33:00 AM, Peter Griffin via Silklist <silklist@lists.digeratus.in <mailto:silklist@lists.digeratus.in> > wrote: Many years ago, when I worked with Forbes India, as part of an anniversary special, we commissioned an essay by Alain de Botton on a ‘religion for atheists’ (he has of course written and spoken about this extensively elsewhere). https://www.forbesindia.com/article/ideas-to-change-the-world/alain-de-botton-a-religion-for-atheists/13532/1 I just came across this. https://theconversation.com/church-without-god-how-secular-congregations-fill-a-need-for-some-nonreligious-americans-215749 I resonate with the thought. After beginning my walk away from Christianity in my teens and twenties, and all religion some time after, there have been many times I missed some of the peripheral things about religion. The sense of community, the places of contemplative silence, the art, the music. What do you folk — believers or otherwise — think? ~ peter -- Silklist mailing list Silklist@lists.digeratus.in <mailto:Silklist@lists.digeratus.in> https://mailman.panix.com/listinfo.cgi/silklist -- Silklist mailing list Silklist@lists.digeratus.in <mailto:Silklist@lists.digeratus.in> https://mailman.panix.com/listinfo.cgi/silklist
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