Alok, I had the Three Body Problem in mind as I was writing my email. I discounted it because it's influence was more limited to the reading classes unlike the Indian example (RRR) and Korean example (Gagnam Style) which were more widespread.
You make a good point about Hong Kong Cinema. Prashant, martial arts, cuisine, writing, fashion,... all those were some time ago. I was looking for more recent examples. Thaths On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 6:34 AM Prashant Kothari via Silklist < silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote: > What about the martial arts and cuisine? > > > Best regards > Prashant Kothari > > Sent from my cell phone so please excuse typos and seemingly terse messages > > > On Dec 22, 2023, at 12:22 AM, Alok Prasanna Kumar via Silklist < > silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote: > > > As Amitav Ghosh's recent "Smoke and Ashes" made me aware - China has been > the source of high quality goods for various parts of the world for > centuries before the Industrial Revolution and Opium Wars got in the way. > In some ways I suppose China is only reclaiming its "core competence". > > On the point of soft power - I would say Cixin Liu's Three Body Problem is > China's recent soft power win. If we're only thinking about cinema, Hong > Kong cinema was making waves world wide for decades as Chinese soft power > (if not necessarily controlled by the Communist Party). > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free.www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > <#m_-297783367775805453_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:55 AM Suresh Ramasubramanian via Silklist < > silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote: > >> China can and will produce goods to whatever quality is asked for. They >> also have no scruples in producing shoddy goods to meet cheap price points >> that then get sold in markets without sufficient regulation to prevent such >> from being sold, if that’s what their customers ask for. >> >> --srs >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Silklist <silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus....@lists.digeratus.in> >> on behalf of Thaths via Silklist <silklist@lists.digeratus.in> >> *Sent:* Friday, December 22, 2023 4:19:37 AM >> *To:* Intelligent conversation <silklist@lists.digeratus.in> >> *Cc:* Thaths <tha...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [Silk] A perspective from Congo on manufactured goods >> from India vs China. >> >> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 7:11 AM Peter Griffin via Silklist < >> silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote: >> >> I found this particularly interesting not just because I’ve grumbled for >> most of my life about the lack of finish in Indian goods but also from the >> (very small amount) I’ve read about China’s ‘soft’ conquest of Africa. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jadXwMQF88 >> >> >> Interesting, indeed. It is interesting that India has managed to take >> most of the market for motorcycles in Africa. At least 20 years ago when I >> lived in East Africa, China dominated the bicycle space. I think China will >> likely dominate the EV space in Africa. >> >> India was overwhelmingly winning the pharma space. I wonder if the recent >> episodes of tainted cough syrup and such will have an effect. Israel and >> Brazil ought to give India a running for money in this space. >> >> It is also interesting to compare the current complaints about shoddy >> Chinese goods to what was said about Japanese, Korean and German goods back >> when these countries were just starting to make their mark. All three have >> gotten past this and are recognized today for the quality of the goods they >> produce. >> >> Soft power, and how it is projected, is a topic of fascination for me. >> While in historical times China and India were able to flex their soft >> power and cultural dominance to parts of Asia and Africa (and later to >> Communist-block countries), these days India does a much better job of >> flexing its soft power than China. What was the last Chinese equivalent of >> RRR or Gagnam Style, I ask you? >> >> Thaths >> -- >> Homer: Hey, what does this job pay? >> Carl: Nuthin'. >> Homer: D'oh! >> Carl: Unless you're crooked. >> Homer: Woo-hoo! >> -- >> Silklist mailing list >> Silklist@lists.digeratus.in >> https://mailman.panix.com/listinfo.cgi/silklist >> > > > -- > Alok Prasanna Kumar > Advocate > Ph: +919560065577 > -- > Silklist mailing list > Silklist@lists.digeratus.in > https://mailman.panix.com/listinfo.cgi/silklist > > -- > Silklist mailing list > Silklist@lists.digeratus.in > https://mailman.panix.com/listinfo.cgi/silklist > -- Homer: Hey, what does this job pay? Carl: Nuthin'. Homer: D'oh! Carl: Unless you're crooked. Homer: Woo-hoo!
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