Congrats to Nikki. Well done and well deserved.

I think it's good to go to the US, though I think a lot of Aussies
forget about home when they go. A bunch don't, like Elias, Alisdair
and Adam Broadway (through my personal experience anyway) but I'd like
to see a bit more investment back into Australian startups from the
US. That will improve things all round.

Mick "True Blue" Liubinskas

On Nov 22, 6:02 am, Andrew Roberts <andrew.robe...@ephox.com> wrote:
> As an Aussie who moved to the US I would say that the more encouragement
> and support we can give for Australian entrepreneurs to move here the
> better. I appreciate the patriotism to keep the best and brightest at home,
> but I think it is misguided.
>
> The San Francisco Bay Area is different. You can stay in Australia and be a
> big fish in a small pond or come here and be a small fish in a big pond.
> The more entrepreneurs we can get learning to thrive in the primordial
> swamp of Silicon Valley, the better Australia will be.
>
> Right now we have less than 100 influential Australians in the tech
> community of the Bay Area. That is pathetic and I would love to see that
> double within the next 2-3 years. One of the biggest barriers to success
> that Australians have is that we are too cautious in making the jump here.
> We need to suck it up, come to the big smoke and prove we can make it.
>
> Australia only loses a relative few tax dollars by another 100 people
> residing, often temporarily, overseas. The net benefits to Australia of
> having more influential tech entrepreneurs expats has to exceed any lost
> tax dollars. As an example, my company (that I founded in Brisbane but now
> have the HQ in Palo Alto) employs more than 20 highly paying jobs back
> "home". Their collective taxes far exceed in one year the amount of tax I
> have paid in my lifetime. A lot of Aussies based here are also angel
> investing back in Australia creating yet more jobs.
>
> Your argument regarding acting is also flawed. Actors are not born with all
> of their skills - they need to develop them. Australian actors coming to
> Hollywood makes them better actors because they get exposed to the world's
> best directors, producers, script writers - even makeup artists. They have
> to work harder at their trade to rise above the competition. And the
> network matters... the people there help them get to where they want to
> go - the agents, the PR people, the older generations of actors who can
> mentor them, etc. etc. Working in Hollywood takes them from being merely
> good to being great.
>
> I commend Nikki on everything she is doing but her story is a dime a dozen
> over here. There are almost 100 YCombinator startups this 'intake'. And
> from previous years' graduates, only a small percent make it. She should be
> here for at least the next ten years learning, growing and proving what she
> is made of with her current startup, and new ones. Can you imagine her
> skills when she returns back to Oz? Or if she stays here, the help she can
> provide to the next generation of Aussies trying to make it?
>
> IMHO, as a community we should be encouraging more Aussies to make the
> jump. Australians win almost 5% of the medals at the Olympics ... We should
> be aiming to be at least 5% of all funding rounds, YCombinator intake,
> 500Startups, etc.
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Jonathan Clarke
> <clarke.jonat...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > There seems to be a trend happening in Australian startups.  Get into
> > an Australian incubator,  move to an American incubator, get
> > investment from the US, move to the US.
>
> > What gives?  Australia is losing tax dollars as a result, it also is
> > losing the future mentors for the next generation.
>
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:13 PM, simran <sim...@dn.gs> wrote:
> > > Congrats to Niki... :)
> > > and  me thinks the first smh comment is a troll...
> > > I do absolutely love the fact that people are finding success (hopefully
> > in
> > > the shape and form they are looking for it in), but why our obsession
> > with
> > > the US?
> > > It's almost like an "australian actor is no good till they have made it
> > in
> > > hollywood"? Perhaps they will have a chance to do bigger and better
> > things
> > > as the facilities and context is bigger there, but they lose a lot along
> > the
> > > way... in the same way as nicole kidman is hardly an "australian actor",
> > > people that go there will become "american successes", they will take a
> > > tinge of australian in them, but they will become every bit the american!
> > > i think it's great that people do find that path, but i believe more in
> > > those that stick it out here, and really are "australian successes", not
> > > "will be considered australian successes iff they succeed in the US in
> > their
> > > context, in their environment, with their money".
> > > signed,
> > > (surprised by our obsession with the US!!!)

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