55_server_x11.conf has the following xvfb command: xvfb = Xvfb +extension GLX +extension Composite -screen 0 5760x2560x24+32 -dpi 96 -nolisten tcp -noreset -auth $XAUTHORITY
Setting XPRA_SYSCONF_DIRS seems to have worked! It looks like the server is running, at least. But I haven't been able to get my Windows client to connect. I set it to SSH mode and after putting in my password nothing happens for a few seconds and the client window comes back saying "Connection lost". The server prints: [bmishkania@ussd-prd-rdln01 ~]$ XPRA_SYSCONF_DIRS=/home/bmishkania/bin/xpra-2.2.3/etc/xpra/ xpra start --start=~/bin/firefox/firefox --daemon=no 2018-01-27 10:41:51,460 cannot access python uinput module: 2018-01-27 10:41:51,460 No module named uinput 2018-01-27 10:41:51,957 Warning: failed to create socket directory '/run/xpra' 2018-01-27 10:41:51,958 [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/run/xpra' 2018-01-27 10:41:51,961 created unix domain socket: /run/user/109999/xpra/ussd-prd-rdln01-100 2018-01-27 10:41:52,264 created unix domain socket: /home/bmishkania/.xpra/ussd-prd-rdln01-100 2018-01-27 10:41:52,265 Warning: cannot create socket '/run/xpra/ussd-prd-rdln01-100' 2018-01-27 10:41:52,265 [Errno 2] No such file or directory 2018-01-27 10:41:52,265 /run/xpra does not exist 2018-01-27 10:41:52,266 user 'bmishkania' is a member of groups: no groups! 2018-01-27 10:41:52,266 missing 'xpra' group membership? 2018-01-27 10:41:52,267 failed to query path information for '/run/xpra': [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/run/xpra' 2018-01-27 10:41:52,689 Warning: zlib is the only compressor enabled 2018-01-27 10:41:52,689 install and enable lzo or lz4 support for better performance 2018-01-27 10:41:52,701 Warning: your version of Python Imaging Library is well out of date 2018-01-27 10:41:52,701 version 1.1.7 is not supported, your mileage may vary 2018-01-27 10:41:52,824 Error importing x264 encoder (enc_x264) 2018-01-27 10:41:52,824 libx264.so.152: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 2018-01-27 10:41:52,825 pointer device emulation using XTest 2018-01-27 10:41:53,429 serving html content from: /home/bmishkania/bin/xpra-2.2.3/share/xpra/www 2018-01-27 10:41:53,564 Warning: webcam forwarding is disabled 2018-01-27 10:41:53,565 the virtual video directory '/sys/devices/virtual/video4linux' was not found 2018-01-27 10:41:53,565 make sure that the 'v4l2loopback' kernel module is installed and loaded 2018-01-27 10:41:53,565 found 0 virtual video devices for webcam forwarding 2018-01-27 10:41:53,596 pulseaudio server started with pid 3276 Thanks, Ben ________________________________ From: Antoine Martin <anto...@nagafix.co.uk> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 9:19 PM To: Ben Mishkanian Cc: Xpra and Winswitch ML Subject: Re: [winswitch] How to install local unprivileged Xpra server? On 26/01/18 12:10, Ben Mishkanian wrote: > [bmishkania@ussd-prd-rdln01 xpra-2.2.3]$ xpra showconfig | grep -i ^xvfb > xvfb = 'xpra_Xdummy -noreset -novtswitch > -nolisten tcp +extension GLX +extension RANDR +extension RENDER -auth > $XAUTHORITY -logfile ${XPRA_LOG_DIR}/Xorg.${DISPLAY}.log -configdir > ${XDG_RUNTIME_DIR}/xpra/xorg.conf.d/$PID -config > /home/bmishkania/bin/localPython/etc/xpra/xorg.conf' > > It seems like it is still trying to use Xdummy but I am not sure why. I > tried next to install Xvfb as suggested: > yumdownloader xorg-x11-server-Xvfb > rpm2cpio ./xorg-x11-server-Xvfb-1.19.3-11.el7_4.1.x86_64.rpm | cpio -idmv > cp ./usr/bin/Xvfb ~/bin/ # copy Xvfb to directory that is in $PATH > rm -r ~/bin/xpra-2.2.3/ > ./setup.py --without-Xdummy install --home=/home/bmishkania/bin/xpra-2.2.3/ > > The build switches show: > build switches: > * PIC : Y > * Xdummy : N > * Xdummy_wrapper : Auto (..) > But it doesn't seem to have helped: > > [bmishkania@ussd-prd-rdln01 xpra-2.2.3]$ xpra start (..) > OSError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor > > xpra initialization error: > xpra_Xdummy: did not provide a display number using displayfd > [bmishkania@ussd-prd-rdln01 xpra-2.2.3]$ xpra showconfig | grep -i ^xvfb > xvfb = 'xpra_Xdummy -noreset -novtswitch > -nolisten tcp +extension GLX +extension RANDR +extension RENDER -auth > $XAUTHORITY -logfile ${XPRA_LOG_DIR}/Xorg.${DISPLAY}.log -configdir > ${XDG_RUNTIME_DIR}/xpra/xorg.conf.d/$PID -config > /home/bmishkania/bin/localPython/etc/xpra/xorg.conf' Verify that the xvfb value is correct in the "55_server_x11.conf" config file that was generated. I think the problem is that your xpra config files aren't found because of the non-standard location, so it uses the builtin defaults, which is Xdummy on CentOS 7.x To workaround this problem, you have at least 3 options: * telling it where to load config files from: XPRA_SYSCONF_DIRS=/path/to/etc/xpra xpra start .. * specifying the xvfb option on the command line: xpra start --xvfb=... * setting the xvfb option for this particular user: echo "xvfb=..." >> ~/.xpra/xpra.conf Cheers Antoine > > > Thanks, > Ben > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Antoine Martin <anto...@nagafix.co.uk> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:47 PM > *To:* Ben Mishkanian > *Cc:* Xpra and Winswitch ML > *Subject:* Re: [winswitch] How to install local unprivileged Xpra server? > >> I tried building without Xdummy and ended up with a different error. >> Here is what I did: >> rm -r ~/bin/xpra-2.2.3/ >> ./setup.py --without-Xdummy install --home=/home/bmishkania/bin/xpra-2.2.3/ >> xpra start --start=~/bin/firefox/firefox --daemon=no >> >> It prints this: >> 2018-01-24 20:03:58,708 cannot access python uinput module: >> 2018-01-24 20:03:58,708 No module named uinput >> xpra main error: >> Traceback (most recent call last): > (..) >> OSError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor > This error message has now been improved: > http://xpra.org/trac/changeset/18147 Changeset 18147 – Xpra <http://xpra.org/trac/changeset/18147> xpra.org xpra - screen for X > Changeset 18147 – Xpra <http://xpra.org/trac/changeset/18147> Changeset 18147 – Xpra <http://xpra.org/trac/changeset/18147> xpra.org xpra - screen for X > xpra.org > xpra - screen for X > > > > >> xpra initialization error: >> xpra_Xdummy: did not provide a display number using displayfd > Based on this message, I'm not convinced that you are actually using > xvfb. Double-check your configuration with: > xpra showconfig | grep -i ^xvfb > >> I do not think Xvfb is installed on this system, even though Xorg is. > The xorg-x11-server-Xvfb package on CentOS / RHEL 7.x only contains one > binary file named "Xvfb". You can just unpack the RPM by hand and put > the binary in your $PATH. The dependencies should already be present if > you have /usr/bin/Xorg installed. > >> As >> an unprivileged user it may be hard for me to install Xvfb, so could >> there be a different solution? > Yes, figure out why you get those tty errors when running xpra_Xdummy. > Regular CentOS 7.x systems can normally run it just fine. > > Cheers > Antoine > >> >> Thanks, >> Ben >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Antoine Martin <anto...@nagafix.co.uk> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2018 1:26 AM >> *Cc:* Ben Mishkanian; Xpra and Winswitch ML >> *Subject:* Re: [winswitch] How to install local unprivileged Xpra server? >> >> Please always CC the mailing list. >> >> On 24/01/18 13:39, Ben Mishkanian wrote: >>> Thank you for the quick response! >>> >>> >>> It is CentOS 7.4.1708. You're right, I used the wrong PYTHONPATH. Oops. >>> It allows server commands now, but now there's a new error. Here is what >>> I did: >>> >>> >>> ./setup.py -v install --home=/home/bmishkania/bin/xpra-2.2.3/ >>> >>> export PYTHONPATH=/home/bmishkania/bin/xpra-2.2.3/lib64/python:$PYTHONPATH >>> >>> xpra start --start=~/bin/firefox/firefox >> This should not work unless you've also installed xpra somewhere on the >> $PATH or modified $PATH. >> You could also use the path to somewhere/install/bin/xpra directly. >> >>> It prints: >>> >>> Warning: cannot use the system proxy for 'start' subcommand, >> Harmless warning, you don't have a system service, it will fallback to >> self-daemonizing. >> >>> failed to connect to '/run/xpra/system': >>> [Errno 2] No such file or directory >> Harmless warning because you are missing the tmpfiles.d bits. >> >>> Entering daemon mode; any further errors will be reported to: >>> /run/user/109999/xpra/S12370.log >>> >>> Here is the log file: >>> 2018-01-23 22:12:33,912 cannot access python uinput module:ESC[0m >>> 2018-01-23 22:12:33,912 No module named uinputESC[0m >> Harmless, you don't have uinput installed. You wouldn't be able to use >> it anyway without the system service without also modifying the device >> permissions. >> >>> Failed to rename log file "/run/user/109999/xpra/Xorg.S12370.log" to >>> "/run/user/109999/xpra/Xorg.S12370.log": No such file or directory >> Harmless, that's a known Xorg bug languishing upstream. >> >>> X.Org X Server 1.19.3 >>> Release Date: 2017-03-15 >>> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >>> Build Operating System: 3.10.0-514.16.1.el7.x86_64 >>> Current Operating System: Linux ussd-prd-rdln01 >>> 3.10.0-693.5.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Oct 20 20:32:50 UTC 2017 x86_64 >>> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz initrd=initrd >>> rdblacklist=nouveau net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 user_namespace.enable=1 >>> mlx4_core.port_type_array=2,2 >>> ip=10.12.144.15:10.12.144.11:10.12.144.1:255.255.252.0 >>> BOOTIF=01-0c-c4-7a-1d-ae-de >>> Build Date: 05 August 2017 06:19:43AM >>> Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.19.3-11.el7 >>> Current version of pixman: 0.34.0 >>> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >>> to make sure that you have the latest version. >>> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >>> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >>> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >>> (++) Log file: "/run/user/109999/xpra/Xorg.S12370.log", Time: Tue Jan 23 >>> 22:12:34 2018 >>> (++) Using config file: >>> "/home/bmishkania/bin/localPython/etc/xpra/xorg.conf" >>> (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" >>> (EE) >>> Fatal server error: >>> (EE) parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Permission denied) >>> (EE) >>> (EE) >>> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support >>> at http://wiki.x.org >>> for help. >>> (EE) Please also check the log file at >>> "/run/user/109999/xpra/Xorg.S12370.log" for additional information. >>> (EE) >>> (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. >>> xpra initialization error: >>> xpra_Xdummy: did not provide a display number using displayfd >> xpra_Xdummy failed to run, there could be a number of reasons for that. >> The easiest fix for you might just be to switch to Xvfb: >> ./setup.py --without-Xdummy install --home=.... >> >> Cheers >> Antoine >> >>> >>> >>> Any ideas how I can fix this? >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Ben >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* shifter-users <shifter-users-boun...@lists.devloop.org.uk> on >>> behalf of Antoine Martin via shifter-users >>> <shifter-users@lists.devloop.org.uk> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2018 9:57 PM >>> *To:* shifter-users@lists.devloop.org.uk >>> *Subject:* Re: [winswitch] How to install local unprivileged Xpra server? >>> >>> On 24/01/18 12:47, Ben Mishkanian via shifter-users wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> I am trying to build and install from source an Xpra 2.2.3 server as an >>>> unprivileged user on CentOS 7. I ran setup.py and it seems to complete >>>> fine, although it prints a bunch of brotli errors saying it failed to >>>> minify various files. >>> You can ignore those errors or turn off the brotli feature, see: >>> ./setup.py --help >>> >>>> In any case it produces the xpra binary, but when I run `xpra -h` it says >>>> (This xpra installation does not support starting local servers.) >>> Please always include the exact command lines that you have used so we >>> can help you with that. >>> Also specify which CentOS 7 you are using, CentOS versions older than >>> 7.2 are not supported in xpra versions 2.x and later, see: >>> https://www.xpra.org/trac/wiki/Platforms Platforms – Xpra<https://www.xpra.org/trac/wiki/Platforms> www.xpra.org Platforms. Unless otherwise stated, all the operating systems listed here support all versions of xpra. 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Xpra is an open-source multi-platform persistent remote display > server and client for forwarding applications and desktop screens. It > gives you remote access ... > > > >> Platforms. Unless otherwise stated, all the operating systems listed >> here support all versions of xpra. The only architectures officially >> tested and supported are ... >> >> >> >>> www.xpra.org<http://www.xpra.org> <http://www.xpra.org> >>> <http://www.xpra.org> xpra home page<http://www.xpra.org/> www.xpra.org About. Xpra is an open-source multi-platform persistent remote display server and client for forwarding applications and desktop screens. It gives you remote access ... xpra home page<http://www.xpra.org/> www.xpra.org About. Xpra is an open-source multi-platform persistent remote display server and client for forwarding applications and desktop screens. It gives you remote access ... xpra home page<http://www.xpra.org/> www.xpra.org About. 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Xpra is an open-source multi-platform persistent remote display server and client for forwarding applications and desktop screens. It gives you remote access ... > xpra home page <http://www.xpra.org/> xpra home page<http://www.xpra.org/> www.xpra.org About. Xpra is an open-source multi-platform persistent remote display server and client for forwarding applications and desktop screens. It gives you remote access ... > www.xpra.org<http://www.xpra.org> xpra home page<http://www.xpra.org/> www.xpra.org About. Xpra is an open-source multi-platform persistent remote display server and client for forwarding applications and desktop screens. It gives you remote access ... > About. Xpra is an open-source multi-platform persistent remote display > server and client for forwarding applications and desktop screens. It > gives you remote access ... > > > >> About. Xpra is an open-source multi-platform persistent remote display >> server and client for forwarding applications and desktop screens. It >> gives you remote access ... >> >> >> >>> Platforms. Unless otherwise stated, all the operating systems listed >>> here support all versions of xpra. The only architectures officially >>> tested and supported are ... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Be aware that your home made build will be severely degraded and may not >>> work as expected. (performance, features, security, etc) >>> >>>> How can I find out why it can't start local servers? setup.py showed that >>>> the "server" build switch is set to "Y". >>> My guess is that you're not setting the PYTHONPATH correctly. >>> You should be installing into a directory: >>> ./setup.py install --home=./install >>> Then adjusting PATH and PYTHONPATH accordingly. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Antoine >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> shifter-users mailing list >>>> shifter-users@lists.devloop.org.uk >>>> http://lists.devloop.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/shifter-users shifter-users Info Page - devloop.org.uk<http://lists.devloop.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/shifter-users> lists.devloop.org.uk General discussion and help on using Window Switch. 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