On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 14:06:31 GMT, Kelvin Nilsen <kdnil...@openjdk.org> wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
> 
> Thank you for your followup comments. I am in total agreement that it is a 
> shame the challenges we have faced and the progress we have made is not 
> better documented in the history of JBS tickets. I have been the worst 
> offender. I apologize.

Please, no need to apologize. I understand that during early development one 
needs to move quickly. I just thought that your team's experience with tuning 
Shenandoah is valuable, and it is regrettable when it is lost.

> You are correct that the change is to N, the number of times in a row that we 
> perform degenerated GC before we automatically upgrade to Full GC. It is 
> still possible that we will upgrade to Full GC before N is reached, because 
> there are other situations, such as lack of progress by degenerated GC, that 
> will cause us to upgrade to Full even before N is reached.
> 
> The comment is still valid as written. During degenerated GC, the mutator 
> threads are all blocked, so the ONLY kind of allocation failure that can 
> occur during degenerated GC is a GC-worker-thread allocation for the purpose 
> of evacuating memory. If we experience an "evacuation failure" during 
> degenerated GC. we will upgrade to Full GC.

Thank you for the thorough explanation.

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PR Comment: https://git.openjdk.org/jdk/pull/14185#issuecomment-1581232734

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