[zfs-discuss] "ZFS, Smashing Baby" a fake???

2008-11-23 Thread Scara Maccai
I watched both the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN6iDzesEs0 and the one on http://www.opensolaris.com/, "ZFS – A Smashing Hit". In the first one is obvious that the app stops working when they smash the drives; they have to physically detach the drive before the array reconstru

Re: [zfs-discuss] "ZFS, Smashing Baby" a fake???

2008-11-24 Thread Scara Maccai
> Why would it be assumed to be a bug in Solaris? Seems > more likely on > balance to be a problem in the error reporting path > or a controller/ > firmware weakness. Weird: they would use a controller/firmware that doesn't work? Bad call... > I'm pretty sure the first 2 versions of this demo

Re: [zfs-discuss] "ZFS, Smashing Baby" a fake???

2008-11-24 Thread Scara Maccai
> if a disk vanishes like > a sledgehammer > hit it, ZFS will wait on the device driver to decide > it's dead. OK I see it. > That said, there have been several threads about > wanting configurable > device timeouts handled at the ZFS level rather than > the device driver > level. Uh, so I can

Re: [zfs-discuss] "ZFS, Smashing Baby" a fake???

2008-11-24 Thread Scara Maccai
> In the worst case, the device would be selectable, > but not responding > to data requests which would lead through the device > retry logic and can > take minutes. that's what I didn't know: that a driver could take minutes (hours???) to decide that a device is not working anymore. Now it come

Re: [zfs-discuss] "ZFS, Smashing Baby" a fake???

2008-11-25 Thread Scara Maccai
> Oh, and regarding the original post -- as several > readers correctly > surmised, we weren't faking anything, we just didn't > want to wait > for all the device timeouts. Because the disks were > on USB, which > is a hotplug-capable bus, unplugging the dead disk > generated an > interrupt that b