Re: [zfs-discuss] Lower latency ZIL Option?: SSD behind Controller BB Write Cache

2011-01-28 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Eff Norwood > > We tried all combinations of OCZ SSDs including their PCI based SSDs and > they do NOT work as a ZIL. After a very short time performance degrades > horribly and for the OCZ dri

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best choice - file system for system

2011-01-28 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tristram Scott > > When it comes to dumping and restoring filesystems, there is still no official > replacement for the ufsdump and ufsrestore. Let's go into that a little bit. If you're pi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Lower latency ZIL Option?: SSD behind Controller BB Write Cache

2011-01-28 Thread Deano
Hi Edward, Do you have a source for the 8KiB block size data? whilst we can't avoid the SSD controller in theory we can change the smallest size we present to the SSD to 8KiB fairly easily... I wonder if that would help the controller do a better job (especially with TRIM) I might have to do some

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best choice - file system for system

2011-01-28 Thread Evaldas Auryla
On 01/28/11 02:37 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Let's go into that a little bit. If you're piping zfs send directly into zfs receive, then it is an ideal backup method. But not everybody can afford the disk necessary to do that, so people are tempted to "zfs send" to a file or tape. There are

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best choice - file system for system

2011-01-28 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 28/01/2011 13:37, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tristram Scott When it comes to dumping and restoring filesystems, there is still no official replacement for the ufsdump and ufsrestore. Let's g

[zfs-discuss] dedup experience with sufficient RAM/l2arc/cpu

2011-01-28 Thread Ware Adams
There's a lot of discussion of dedup performance issues (including problems backing out of using it which concerns me), but many/most of those involve relatively limited RAM and CPU configurations. I wanted to see if there is experience that people could share using it on with higher RAM levels

Re: [zfs-discuss] Lower latency ZIL Option?: SSD behind Controller BB Write Cache

2011-01-28 Thread taemun
Comments below. On 29 January 2011 00:25, Edward Ned Harvey < opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com> wrote: > This was something interesting I found recently. Apparently for flash > manufacturers, flash hard drives are like the pimple on the butt of the > elephant. A vast majority o

[zfs-discuss] ZFS root clone problem

2011-01-28 Thread alex bartonek
(for some reason I cannot find my original thread..so I'm reposting it) I am trying to move my data off of a 40gb 3.5" drive to a 40gb 2.5" drive. This is in a Netra running Solaris 10. Originally what I did was: zpool attach -f rpool c0t0d0 c0t2d0. Then I did an installboot on c0t2d0s0. Di

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root clone problem

2011-01-28 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Alex, Disks that are part of the root pool must contain a valid slice 0 (this is boot restriction) and the disk names that you present to ZFS for the root pool must also specify the slice identifier (s0). For example, instead of this syntax: # zpool attach -f rpool c0t0d0 c0t2d0 try this syn

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best choice - file system for system

2011-01-28 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:34 AM, Tristram Scott wrote: > I don't disagree that zfs is the better choice, but... > >> Seriously though. UFS is dead. It has no advantage >> over ZFS that I'm aware >> of. >> > > When it comes to dumping and restoring filesystems, there is still no official > replace

Re: [zfs-discuss] dedup experience with sufficient RAM/l2arc/cpu

2011-01-28 Thread Richard Elling
comment below... On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:13 AM, Ware Adams wrote: > There's a lot of discussion of dedup performance issues (including problems > backing out of using it which concerns me), but many/most of those involve > relatively limited RAM and CPU configurations. I wanted to see if there i

Re: [zfs-discuss] dedup experience with sufficient RAM/l2arc/cpu

2011-01-28 Thread Ware Adams
On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > > On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:13 AM, Ware Adams wrote: > >> SuperMicro 36 bay case >> 48 GB RAM >> 2x 5620 CPU >> Hitachi A7K2000 drives for storage >> X25-M for l2arc (160 GB) >> 4x LSI SAS9211-8i >> Solaris 11 Express > > I apologize for the shor

Re: [zfs-discuss] Lower latency ZIL Option?: SSD behind Controller BB Write Cache

2011-01-28 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Fri, Jan 28 at 8:25, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Eff Norwood We tried all combinations of OCZ SSDs including their PCI based SSDs and they do NOT work as a ZIL. After a very short time performan

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Dedup question

2011-01-28 Thread Igor P
I created a zfs pool with dedup with the following settings: zpool create data c8t1d0 zfs create data/shared zfs set dedup=on data/shared The thing I was wondering about was it seems like ZFS only dedup at the file level and not the block. When I make multiple copies of a file to the store I see

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Dedup question

2011-01-28 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 01:38:11PM -0800, Igor P wrote: > I created a zfs pool with dedup with the following settings: > zpool create data c8t1d0 > zfs create data/shared > zfs set dedup=on data/shared > > The thing I was wondering about was it seems like ZFS only dedup at > the file level and not

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Dedup question

2011-01-28 Thread Jeff Savit
On 01/28/11 02:38 PM, Igor P wrote: I created a zfs pool with dedup with the following settings: zpool create data c8t1d0 zfs create data/shared zfs set dedup=on data/shared The thing I was wondering about was it seems like ZFS only dedup at the file level and not the block. When I make multip

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Dedup question

2011-01-28 Thread Freddie Cash
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Igor P wrote: > I created a zfs pool with dedup with the following settings: > zpool create data c8t1d0 > zfs create data/shared > zfs set dedup=on data/shared > > The thing I was wondering about was it seems like ZFS only dedup at the file > level and not the blo

[zfs-discuss] ZFS not usable (was ZFS Dedup question)

2011-01-28 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> I created a zfs pool with dedup with the following settings: > zpool create data c8t1d0 > zfs create data/shared > zfs set dedup=on data/shared > > The thing I was wondering about was it seems like ZFS only dedup at > the file level and not the block. When I make multiple copies of a > file to t

[zfs-discuss] multiple disk failure

2011-01-28 Thread Mike Tancsa
Hi, I am using FreeBSD 8.2 and went to add 4 new disks today to expand my offsite storage. All was working fine for about 20min and then the new drive cage started to fail. Silly me for assuming new hardware would be fine :( The new drive cage started to fail, it hung the server and the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root clone problem

2011-01-28 Thread alex bartonek
Hey Cindy... wanted to post up on here since you've been helping me in email (which I greatly appreciate!). I figured it out.. I've done the 'dd' thing before etc. I got it all the way to where it was complaining that it cannot use a EFI labeled drive. When I did a prtvtoc | fmthard on the