[zfs-discuss] Writing faster than storage can handle crashes system

2010-01-15 Thread Saso Kiselkov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've run up into yet another peculiarity while building my video storage solution on top of ZFS: if I fill up the disk to 98%, writes slow down - this is expected. However, what happens when the write load overwhelms the storage systems is puzzling to

Re: [zfs-discuss] New ZFS Intent Log (ZIL) device available - Beta program now open!

2010-01-15 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Christopher George wrote: >> Why not enlighten EMC/NTAP on this then? > > On the basic chemistry and possible failure characteristics of Li-Ion > batteries? > > I will agree, if I had system level control as in either example, one could > definitely help mitigate s

Re: [zfs-discuss] New ZFS Intent Log (ZIL) device available - Beta program now open!

2010-01-15 Thread zfsml
On 1/13/10 9:51 AM, Christopher George wrote: The DDRdrive X1 OpenSolaris device driver is now complete, please join us in our first-ever ZFS Intent Log (ZIL) beta test program. A select number of X1s are available for loan, preferred candidates would have a validation background and/or a true p

Re: [zfs-discuss] New ZFS Intent Log (ZIL) device available - Beta program now open!

2010-01-15 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Christopher George wrote: >> Why not enlighten EMC/NTAP on this then? > > On the basic chemistry and possible failure characteristics of Li-Ion > batteries? > > I will agree, if I had system level control as in either example, one could > definitely help mitigate s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recovering a broken mirror

2010-01-15 Thread Jim Sloey
Never mind. It looks like the controller is flakey. Neither disk in the mirror is clean. Attempts to backup and recover the remaining disk produced I/O errors that were traced to the controller. Thanks for your help Victor. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _

[zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-15 Thread Lassi Tuura
Hi, I am considering building a modest sized storage system with zfs. Some of the data on this is quite valuable, some small subset to be backed up "forever", and I am evaluating back-up options with that in mind. My understanding is that zfs send approximately captures the copy-on-write file

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool fragmentation issues? (dovecot) [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-01-15 Thread Michael Keller
> Got a link to this magic dbox format ? http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/dbox -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/ma

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs fast mirror resync?

2010-01-15 Thread Charles Menser
Perhaps an ISCSI mirror for a laptop? Online it when you are back "home" to keep your backup current. Charles On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:04 PM, A Darren Dunham wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 06:11:10PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote: >> zpool offline / zpool online of a mirror component will indeed

[zfs-discuss] Is the disk a member of a zpool?

2010-01-15 Thread Morten-Christian Bernson
I was curious as to if it's possible to know if a disk device (from the SAN) is a member of any zpool. The disks are shared to several servers, and the zpool is exported/imported between servers. I am writing a script to list all the disks available from the SAN with some misc. information, an

Re: [zfs-discuss] adpu320 scsi timeouts only with ZFS

2010-01-15 Thread Marty Scholes
> To fix it, I swapped out the Adaptec controller and > put in LSI Logic > and all the problems went away. I'm using Sun's built-in LSI controller with (I presume) the original internal cable shipped by Sun. Still, no joy for me at U320 speeds. To be precise, when the controller is set at U3

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is the disk a member of a zpool?

2010-01-15 Thread Lutz Schumann
The on Disk Layout is shown here: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/download/Community+Group+zfs/docs/ondiskformat0822.pdf You can use the name value pairs in the vdev label. ( I guess). Unfortunately I do not know any scripts. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is the disk a member of a zpool?

2010-01-15 Thread Victor Latushkin
Lutz Schumann wrote: The on Disk Layout is shown here: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/download/Community+Group+zfs/docs/ondiskformat0822.pdf You can use the name value pairs in the vdev label. ( I guess). Unfortunately I do not know any scripts. you can try zdb -l /dev/rdsk/cXtYdZs0 ___

[zfs-discuss] Backing up a ZFS pool

2010-01-15 Thread Kenny
What is the best way to back up a zfs pool for recovery? Recover entire pool or files from a pool... Would you use snapshots and clones? I would like to move the "backup" to a different disk and not use tapes. suggestions?? TIA --Kenny -- This message posted from opensolaris.org __

[zfs-discuss] Add disk to raidz pool

2010-01-15 Thread Kenny
Can you add a disk (volume) to an existing raidz pool?? Or do you still need to create a new pool, copy data, destroy old pool in order to expand the pool size? TIA --Kenny -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zf

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL to disk

2010-01-15 Thread Jeffry Molanus
> Sometimes people get confused about the ZIL and separate logs. For > sizing purposes, > the ZIL is a write-only workload. Data which is written to the ZIL is > later asynchronously > written to the pool when the txg is committed. Right; the tgx needs time to transfer the ZIL. > The ZFS wri

[zfs-discuss] Can I use a clone to split a filesystem?

2010-01-15 Thread Gary Mills
I've been reading the zfs man page, but I'm confused about dependancies. I have a ZFS filesystem that I wish to split into two ZFS filesystems at one of the subdirectories. I understand that I first need to make a snapshot of the filesystem and then make a clone of the snapshot, with a different

Re: [zfs-discuss] Backing up a ZFS pool

2010-01-15 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Fri, January 15, 2010 13:47, Kenny wrote: > What is the best way to back up a zfs pool for recovery? Recover entire > pool or files from a pool... Would you use snapshots and clones? > > I would like to move the "backup" to a different disk and not use tapes. > > suggestions?? What I'm tryin

Re: [zfs-discuss] Backing up a ZFS pool

2010-01-15 Thread Bryan Allen
Have a simple rolling ZFS replication script: http://dpaste.com/145790/ -- bda cyberpunk is dead. long live cyberpunk. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I use a clone to split a filesystem?

2010-01-15 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 02:07:40PM -0600, Gary Mills wrote: > I have a ZFS filesystem that I wish to split into two > ZFS filesystems at one of the subdirectories. I understand that I > first need to make a snapshot of the filesystem and then make a clone > of the snapshot, with a different name.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL to disk

2010-01-15 Thread Neil Perrin
On 01/15/10 12:59, Jeffry Molanus wrote: Sometimes people get confused about the ZIL and separate logs. For sizing purposes, the ZIL is a write-only workload. Data which is written to the ZIL is later asynchronously written to the pool when the txg is committed. Right; the tgx needs time t

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL to disk

2010-01-15 Thread Scott Meilicke
I think Y is such a variable and complex number it would be difficult to give a rule of thumb, other than to 'test with your workload'. My server, having three, five disk raidzs (striped) and an intel x25-e as a zil can fill my two G ethernet pipes over NFS (~200MBps) during mostly sequential

Re: [zfs-discuss] Add disk to raidz pool

2010-01-15 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Kenny wrote: Can you add a disk (volume) to an existing raidz pool?? Or do you still need to create a new pool, copy data, destroy old pool in order to expand the pool size? There is not really such a thing as a 'raidz pool'. You are not able to add another disk to a r

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs fast mirror resync?

2010-01-15 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:37:15AM -0500, Charles Menser wrote: > Perhaps an ISCSI mirror for a laptop? Online it when you are back > "home" to keep your backup current. I do exactly this, but: - It's not the only thing I do for backup. - The iscsi initiator is currently being a major PITA for

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL to disk

2010-01-15 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Jeffry Molanus wrote: > >> Sometimes people get confused about the ZIL and separate logs. For >> sizing purposes, >> the ZIL is a write-only workload.  Data which is written to the ZIL is >> later asynchronously >> written to the pool when the txg is committed. > >

[zfs-discuss] Finito: Glassfish V3 Pet Catalog sample DEMO in VM Template - Internal Download

2010-01-15 Thread emuls
Hi All, As I promise I finish before SUN leave: http://blogs.sun.com/VirtualGuru/entry/virtual_applinaces_ovf_workshop Feedback is welcome Nice day Rudolf ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/l

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL to disk

2010-01-15 Thread Jeffry Molanus
> -Original Message- > From: neil.per...@sun.com [mailto:neil.per...@sun.com] > I think you misunderstand the function of the ZIL. It's not a journal, > and doesn't get transferred to the pool as of a txg. It's only ever > written except > after a crash it's read to do replay. See: > >

Re: [zfs-discuss] (snv_129, snv_130) can't import zfs pool

2010-01-15 Thread Victor Latushkin
LevT wrote: switched to another system, RAM 4Gb -> 16Gb the importing process lasts about 18hrs now the system is responsive if developers want it I may provide ssh access I have no critical data there, it is an acceptance test only If it is still relevant, feel free to contact me offline to

[zfs-discuss] Zfs over iscsi bad status

2010-01-15 Thread Arnaud Brand
I was testing zfs over iscsi (with commstar over a zvol) and got some errors. Target and initiator are on the same host. I've copy-pasted an excerpt on zpool status hereafter. The pool (tank) containing the iscsi-shared zvol (tank/tsmvol) is healthy and show no errors. But the zpool (tsmvol) on t

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL to disk

2010-01-15 Thread Robert Milkowski
On 16/01/2010 00:09, Jeffry Molanus wrote: -Original Message- From: neil.per...@sun.com [mailto:neil.per...@sun.com] I think you misunderstand the function of the ZIL. It's not a journal, and doesn't get transferred to the pool as of a txg. It's only ever written except a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2010-01-15 Thread Charles Edge
To have Mac OS X connect via iSCSI: http://krypted.com/mac-os-x/how-to-use-iscsi-on-mac-os-x/ -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss