Re: [zfs-discuss] Speeding up resilver on x4500

2009-06-22 Thread Erik Trimble
Nicholas Lee wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Stuart Anderson mailto:ander...@ligo.caltech.edu>> wrote: However, it is a bit disconcerting to have to run with reduced data protection for an entire week. While I am certainly not going back to UFS, it seems like it should b

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-22 Thread Carson Gaspar
James C. McPherson wrote: On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:01:31 -0700 As a member of the team which works on mpt(7d), I'm disappointed that\ you believe you need to use lsiutil to "fully access all the functionality" of the board. What gaps have you found in mpt(7d) and the standard OpenSolaris tools th

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs find list of properties per dataset

2009-06-22 Thread Darren J Moffat
Richard Elling wrote: Harry Putnam wrote: "James C. McPherson" writes: your original question was somewhat vague - could you clarify what it is you need to find out? I wanted to see a list of all the properties available to zfs on a filesystem. NB, the user and group quotas are

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-22 Thread James C. McPherson
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:25:54 -0700 Carson Gaspar wrote: > James C. McPherson wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:01:31 -0700 > > > > As a member of the team which works on mpt(7d), I'm disappointed that\ > > you believe you need to use lsiutil to "fully access all the functionality" > > of the boa

[zfs-discuss] Creating ZFS filesystem with inherited ACLs ?

2009-06-22 Thread Thomas Fili
Hi @all, with ZFS its recommended to create a new filesystem, for example for each user to give them a home directory. So far, so good. The homes should be under tank/export/home/staff and my intention is to restrict the ACL rights so only the user self can access his own home directory. I st

Re: [zfs-discuss] Why Oracle process open(2)/ioctl(2) /dev/dtrace/helper?

2009-06-22 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Sang-Thong Chang wrote: > > Hi all, > > > Under what circumstance would an exiting process open(2) and > ioctl(2) on /dev/dtrace/helper? This happens if the executable or any of its shared libraries have USDT probes defined. It is coming from dtri.c, which exists

Re: [zfs-discuss] Speeding up resilver on x4500

2009-06-22 Thread Richard Elling
Stuart Anderson wrote: On Jun 21, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Richard Elling wrote: Stuart Anderson wrote: It is currently taking ~1 week to resilver an x4500 running S10U6, recently patched with~170M small files on ~170 datasets after a disk failure/replacement, i.e., wow, that is impressive. There

Re: [zfs-discuss] cutting up a SSD for read/log use...

2009-06-22 Thread Richard Elling
comment below... Erik Trimble wrote: Richard Elling wrote: Erik Trimble wrote: I just looked at pricing for the higher-end MLC devices, and it looks like I'm better off getting a single drive of 2X capacity than two with X capacity. Leaving aside the issue that by using 2 drives I get 2 x

Re: [zfs-discuss] Creating ZFS filesystem with inherited ACLs ?

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Thomas Fili wrote: Hi @all, with ZFS its recommended to create a new filesystem, for example for each user to give them a home directory. So far, so good. The homes should be under tank/export/home/staff and my intention is to restrict the ACL rights so only the user self can access his own

[zfs-discuss] Turn off the time slider on some zpools

2009-06-22 Thread Harry Putnam
How to turn off the timeslider snapshots on certain file systems? Using: System/Administration/timeslider from default desktop menu item System, I see a dialog to first enable[x] timeslider. Then 3 columns show a checkbox at lines with `mount point' and `File System' listed. I had assumed that r

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs find list of properties per dataset

2009-06-22 Thread Harry Putnam
[...] Richard wrote: >> NB, the user and group quotas are stored as properties, but "get all" does >> not return them. So it is not a true statement that "get all" >> returns all of >> the properties. Darren M responded: > There are are other "hidden" properties too. > > 'zfs get all' should be

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs find list of properties per dataset

2009-06-22 Thread Darren J Moffat
Harry Putnam wrote: [...] Richard wrote: NB, the user and group quotas are stored as properties, but "get all" does not return them. So it is not a true statement that "get all" returns all of the properties. Darren M responded: There are are other "hidden" properties too. 'zfs get all' sh

Re: [zfs-discuss] Speeding up resilver on x4500

2009-06-22 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 06:06 -0700, Richard Elling wrote: > Nevertheless, in my lab testing, I was not able to create a random-enough > workload to not be write limited on the reconstructing drive. Anecdotal > evidence shows that some systems are limited by the random reads. Systems I've run which

Re: [zfs-discuss] Turn off the time slider on some zpools

2009-06-22 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:38:18 -0500 Harry Putnam wrote: > How to turn off the timeslider snapshots on certain file systems? http://wikis.sun.com/display/OpenSolarisInfo/How+to+Manage+the+Automatic+ZFS+Snapshot+Service -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | nevada /

Re: [zfs-discuss] Turn off the time slider on some zpools

2009-06-22 Thread Harry Putnam
dick hoogendijk writes: > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:38:18 -0500 > Harry Putnam wrote: > >> How to turn off the timeslider snapshots on certain file systems? > > http://wikis.sun.com/display/OpenSolarisInfo/How+to+Manage+the+Automatic+ZFS+Snapshot+Service The first steps fail here... At System/Admi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Turn off the time slider on some zpools

2009-06-22 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Harry, Are you attempting this change when logged in as yourself or as root? The top section of this procedure describes how to add yourself to zfssnap role. Otherwise, if you are doing this step as a non-root user, it probably won't work. Cindy Harry Putnam wrote: dick hoogendijk writes:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Turn off the time slider on some zpools

2009-06-22 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:21:30 -0600 cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote: > Are you attempting this change when logged in as yourself or > as root? > > The top section of this procedure describes how to add yourself > to zfssnap role. Otherwise, if you are doing this step as a > non-root user, it probab

[zfs-discuss] ZFS attributes for CIFS.

2009-06-22 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi all, I'm setting up a new fileserver, and while I'm not planning on enabling CIFS right away, I know I will in the future. I know there are several ZFS properties or attributes that affect how CIFS behaves. I seem to recall that at least one of those needs to be set early (like when the f

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-22 Thread Miles Nordin
> "edm" == Eric D Mudama writes: edm> We bought a Dell T610 as a fileserver, and it comes with an edm> LSI 1068E based board (PERC6/i SAS). which driver attaches to it? pciids.sourceforge.net says this is a 1078 board, not a 1068 board. please, be careful. There's too much confusion

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS attributes for CIFS.

2009-06-22 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Kyle, The first thing to plan for is that the Solaris CIFS services are not available in the Solaris 10 release. You can use the property descriptions in this table to review the CIFS related features. Using your browser's find in page feature and searching on CIFS is probably the easiest way

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS attributes for CIFS.

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Kyle McDonald wrote: Hi all, I'm setting up a new fileserver, and while I'm not planning on enabling CIFS right away, I know I will in the future. I know there are several ZFS properties or attributes that affect how CIFS behaves. I seem to recall that at least one of those needs to be set

[zfs-discuss] core dump on zfs receive

2009-06-22 Thread Charles Hedrick
I'm trying to do a simple backup. I did zfs snapshot -r rp...@snapshot zfs send -R rp...@snapshot | zfs receive -Fud external/rpool zfs snapshot -r rp...@snapshot2 zfs send -RI rp...@snapshot1 rp...@snapshot2 | zfs receive -d external/rpool The receive coredumps $c libc_hwcap1.so.1`strcmp+0xec(8

Re: [zfs-discuss] Lots of metadata overhead on filesystems with 100M files

2009-06-22 Thread Thomas
Hi, I have and raidz1 conisting 6 5400rpm drives on this zpool. I have stored some Media in a FS and in an other 200k files. Both FS are written not much. The Pool is 85% Full. Could this issue also the reason that if Iam playing(reading) some Media that the playback is lagging? OSOL ips_111

[zfs-discuss] Narrow escape!

2009-06-22 Thread Ross
Hey folks, Well, I've had a disk fail in my home server, so I've had my first experience of hunting down the faulty drive and replacing it (damn site easier on Sun kit than on a home built box I can tell you!). All seemed well, I replaced the faulty drive, imported the pool again, and kicked o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-22 Thread Simon Breden
Thanks guys, keep your experiences coming. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] recovering fs's

2009-06-22 Thread Matt Harrison
I know this may have been discussed before but my google-fu hasn't turned up anything directly related. My girlfriend had some files stored in a zfs dataset on my home server. She assured me that she didn't need them any more so I destroyed the dataset (I know I should have kept it anyway for

[zfs-discuss] SAN server

2009-06-22 Thread Greg
Hey all, I am working on a SAN server for my office and would like to know about hardware recommendations. I am quite confused as to go the raidz route or a standard raid route. As for what this will be doing, I will be having a vmware esxi server connected via iscsi and it will be running multi

[zfs-discuss] SPARC SATA, please.

2009-06-22 Thread Jacob Ritorto
Is there a card for OpenSolaris 2009.06 SPARC that will do SATA correctly yet? Need it for a super cheapie, low expectations, SunBlade 100 filer, so I think it has to be notched for 5v PCI slot, iirc. I'm OK with slow -- main goals here are power saving (sleep all 4 disks) and 1TB+ space. Oh,

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering fs's

2009-06-22 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:42:23 +0100 Matt Harrison wrote: > She's now desperate to get it back as she's realised there some > important work stuff hidden away in there. Without snapshots you're lost. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | nevada / OpenSolaris 2009.0

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-22 Thread Simon Breden
Also, is anybody using the AOC-USAS-L8i? If so, what's your experience of it, and identifying drives and replacing failed drives with it? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.o

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering fs's

2009-06-22 Thread Matt Harrison
dick hoogendijk wrote: On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:42:23 +0100 Matt Harrison wrote: She's now desperate to get it back as she's realised there some important work stuff hidden away in there. Without snapshots you're lost. Ok, thanks. It was worth a shot. Guess she'll be working overtime tonigh

Re: [zfs-discuss] Narrow escape!

2009-06-22 Thread Simon Breden
Lucky one there Ross! Makes me glad I also upgraded to RAID-Z2 ;-) Simon -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Narrow escape!

2009-06-22 Thread Ed Spencer
I'm curious, how often do you scrub the pool? On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 15:33, Ross wrote: > Hey folks, > > Well, I've had a disk fail in my home server, so I've had my first experience > of hunting down the faulty drive and replacing it (damn site easier on Sun > kit than on a home built box I can

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering fs's

2009-06-22 Thread Simon Breden
Yep, normally you can't get the data back, especially if new files have been written to the drives AND the files were written over the old ones. You have a slight chance, or big chance, depending on how many files have been written since deletion of files, and if ZFS tries to use space that was

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering fs's

2009-06-22 Thread Matt Harrison
Simon Breden wrote: Yep, normally you can't get the data back, especially if new files have been written to the drives AND the files were written over the old ones. You have a slight chance, or big chance, depending on how many files have been written since deletion of files, and if ZFS tries

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering fs's

2009-06-22 Thread Ahmed Kamal
> > It's worth a try although like you i'll have to bow to the gurus on the > list. It's not the end of the world if she can't get it back, but if anyone > does know of a method like this, I'd love to know, for future reference as > much as anything. > Perhaps you're looking for http://www.cgsecur

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering fs's

2009-06-22 Thread Simon Breden
Hi Matt! As kim0 says, that s/w PhotoRec looks like it might work, if it can work with ZFS... would be interested to hear if it works. Good luck, Simon -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.or

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering fs's

2009-06-22 Thread Matt Harrison
Simon Breden wrote: Hi Matt! As kim0 says, that s/w PhotoRec looks like it might work, if it can work with ZFS... would be interested to hear if it works. Good luck, Simon I'll give it a go as soon as I get a chance. I've had a very quick look and ZFS isn't in the list of supported FSs...bu

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-22 Thread Carson Gaspar
James C. McPherson wrote: Use raidctl(1m). For fwflash(1m), this is on the "future project" list purely because we've got much higher priority projects on the boil - if we couldn't use raidctl(1m) this would be higher up the list. Nice to see that raidctl can do that. Although I don't see a wa

Re: [zfs-discuss] core dump on zfs receive

2009-06-22 Thread Lori Alt
This is probably 6696858. The fix is known, but I don't know when it's expected to become available. I have asked the CR's responsible engineer to update it with when the fix is expected. Lori On 06/22/09 14:03, Charles Hedrick wrote: I'm trying to do a simple backup. I did zfs snapshot -r

Re: [zfs-discuss] Lots of metadata overhead on filesystems with 100M files

2009-06-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Thomas wrote: I have and raidz1 conisting 6 5400rpm drives on this zpool. I have stored some Media in a FS and in an other 200k files. Both FS are written not much. The Pool is 85% Full. Could this issue also the reason that if Iam playing(reading) some Media that the pl

Re: [zfs-discuss] SAN server

2009-06-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Greg wrote: a. a large raidz array or several raidz arrays b. a hardware raid 10 array for exchange 2007 and then raidz arrays for everything else. c. several hardware raid 10 arrays d. none of the above I think that you will find that ZFS's equivalent of RAID 10 (load-s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Narrow escape!

2009-06-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Ed Spencer wrote: I'm curious, how often do you scrub the pool? Once a week for me. Early every Monday morning so that if something goes wrong, it is at the start of the week. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfrie

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering fs's

2009-06-22 Thread Haudy Kazemi
Matt Harrison wrote: I know this may have been discussed before but my google-fu hasn't turned up anything directly related. My girlfriend had some files stored in a zfs dataset on my home server. She assured me that she didn't need them any more so I destroyed the dataset (I know I should ha

Re: [zfs-discuss] SAN server

2009-06-22 Thread Scott Meilicke
Oh boy, there are a lot of things here :) How many people in your office will be using these services? If it are just 50 people or so, you would probably be fine with just about any configuration. 500 or 5000 would be a different story, and you would have to be much more careful. If possible, y

Re: [zfs-discuss] Broken snapshot is a bit of a disaster

2009-06-22 Thread Chris
Did you ever find a solution to this? I have a similar problem, where my ZFS snapshot was sent through gzip out to a file. I tried to gzcat the file out to a new ZFS, but got the "cannot receive new filesystem stream: invalid backup stream" error. At that point I just ran gunzip on the file a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Broken snapshot is a bit of a disaster

2009-06-22 Thread Daniel Carosone
> Other details - the original ZFS was created at ZFS > version 14 on SNV b105, trying to be restored to ZFS > version 15 on SNV b114. Any help would be > appreciated. The zfs send/recv format is not warranted to be compatible between revisions. I don't know, offhand, if that is the problem in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-22 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Mon, Jun 22 at 15:46, Miles Nordin wrote: "edm" == Eric D Mudama writes: edm> We bought a Dell T610 as a fileserver, and it comes with an edm> LSI 1068E based board (PERC6/i SAS). which driver attaches to it? pciids.sourceforge.net says this is a 1078 board, not a 1068 board. please,

Re: [zfs-discuss] SAN server

2009-06-22 Thread Greg
Thank you both of you! I am going to look at these guides and begin tweaking as soon as I have some hardware in. Users wise it will be less then 100 in the immediate future however I am planning for expansion. Do you recommend using Solaris 10 or opensolaris? I know that opensolaris is the break

Re: [zfs-discuss] SPARC SATA, please.

2009-06-22 Thread Andre van Eyssen
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Jacob Ritorto wrote: Is there a card for OpenSolaris 2009.06 SPARC that will do SATA correctly yet? Need it for a super cheapie, low expectations, SunBlade 100 filer, so I think it has to be notched for 5v PCI slot, iirc. I'm OK with slow -- main goals here are power savi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Speeding up resilver on x4500

2009-06-22 Thread Stuart Anderson
On Jun 21, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Nicholas Lee wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Stuart Anderson > wrote: However, it is a bit disconcerting to have to run with reduced data protection for an entire week. While I am certainly not going back to UFS, it seems like it should be at least theo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Speeding up resilver on x4500

2009-06-22 Thread Erik Trimble
All this discussion hasn't answered one thing for me: exactly _how_ does ZFS do resilvering? Both in the case of mirrors, and of RAIDZ[2] ? I've seen some mention that it goes in cronological order (which to me, means that the metadata must be read first) of file creation, and that only use

Re: [zfs-discuss] SAN server

2009-06-22 Thread Scott Meilicke
For ~100 people, I like Bob's answer. RAID 10 will get you lots of speed. Perhaps RAID50 would be just fine for you as well and give your more space, but without measuring, you won't be sure. Don't forget a hot spare (or two)! Your MySQL database - will that generate a lot of IO? Also, to ensur

Re: [zfs-discuss] Narrow escape!

2009-06-22 Thread Ross
To be honest, never. It's a cheap server sat at home, and I never got around to writing a script to scrub it and report errors. I'm going to write one now though! Look at how the resilver finished: # zpool status pool: zfspool state: ONLINE status: One or more devices has experienced an unr

Re: [zfs-discuss] Creating ZFS filesystem with inherited ACLs ?

2009-06-22 Thread Thomas Fili
Hi, > Currently no ACL inheritance takes place when a new > file system is > created. Feel free to open an RFE for this. Thank you for your reply ... Good to know about it, but its really simple to write a small shell-script that would create the home directory, change ownership and set the AC