[zfs-discuss] preview zfs port to grub2 + raidz

2009-04-26 Thread C. Bergström
Hi zfsers Just wanted to ping the list since one of the osunix/grub devs has been working hard at porting zfs to grub2. I don't think he's subscribed to zfs-discuss so quoting his original email and cc'ing him. Drop by #osunix on freenode if you're interested in the raidz/compressed rpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] Add WORM to OpenSolaris

2009-04-26 Thread Ellis, Mike
Wow... that's seriously cool! Throw in some of this... http://www.nexenta.com/demos/auto-cdp.html and now we're really getting somewhere... Nice to see this level of innovation here. Anyone try to employ these types of techniques on s10? I haven't used nexenta in the past, and I'm not clear in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Add WORM to OpenSolaris

2009-04-26 Thread Mattias Pantzare
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:54, Ellis, Mike wrote: > Wow... that's seriously cool! > > Throw in some of this... http://www.nexenta.com/demos/auto-cdp.html  and > now we're really getting somewhere... > > > Nice to see this level of innovation here. Anyone try to employ these > types of techniques o

[zfs-discuss] Jeb Campbell's slog recovery

2009-04-26 Thread Peter Woodman
Hello- I've run into a problem with a slog device failing and a system failing to boot with the pool it failed in available. I'm attempting to recover it from another system, but now have the problem of being unable to import a pool with a missing slog. I've read Jeb Campbell's post about recoverin

[zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-26 Thread Gary Mills
We run our IMAP spool on ZFS that's derived from LUNs on a Netapp filer. There's a great deal of churn in e-mail folders, with messages appearing and being deleted frequently. I know that ZFS uses copy-on- write, so that blocks in use are never overwritten, and that deleted blocks are added to a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-26 Thread Tim
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Gary Mills wrote: > We run our IMAP spool on ZFS that's derived from LUNs on a Netapp > filer. There's a great deal of churn in e-mail folders, with messages > appearing and being deleted frequently. I know that ZFS uses copy-on- > write, so that blocks in use a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-26 Thread Miles Nordin
> "t" == Tim writes: t> why not just serve NFS off the filer there can be some benefit to the lossless FC fabric through eliminating TCP RTO's and applying backpressure so the initiator has more control over I/O scheduling. As discussed here, block-based storage can produce fewer sync

Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-26 Thread Gary Mills
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 05:19:18PM -0400, Ellis, Mike wrote: > As soon as you put those zfs blocks ontop of iscsi, the netapp won't > have a clue as far as how to defrag those "iscsi files" from the > filer's perspective. (It might do some fancy stuff based on > read/write patterns, but that's un

Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-26 Thread Gary Mills
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 05:02:38PM -0500, Tim wrote: > >On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Gary Mills <[1]mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca> >wrote: > > We run our IMAP spool on ZFS that's derived from LUNs on a Netapp > filer. There's a great deal of churn in e-mail folders, with >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-26 Thread Richard Elling
Gary Mills wrote: We run our IMAP spool on ZFS that's derived from LUNs on a Netapp filer. There's a great deal of churn in e-mail folders, with messages appearing and being deleted frequently. I know that ZFS uses copy-on- write, so that blocks in use are never overwritten, and that deleted bl

Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-26 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 26 April, 2009 - Gary Mills sent me these 1,3K bytes: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 05:02:38PM -0500, Tim wrote: > >I have to ask though... why not just serve NFS off the filer to the > >Solaris box? ZFS on a LUN served off a filer seems to make about as > >much sense as sticking a ZFS