Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot remove a file on a GOOD ZFS filesystem

2008-12-31 Thread Marcelo Leal
Thanks a lot Sanjeev! If you look my first message you will see that discrepancy in zdb... Leal. [http://www.eall.com.br/blog] -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot remove a file on a GOOD ZFS filesystem

2008-12-31 Thread Sanjeev
Marcelo, On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 02:17:37AM -0800, Marcelo Leal wrote: > Thanks a lot Sanjeev! > If you look my first message you will see that discrepancy in zdb... Apologies. Now, in the hindsight I understand why you gave the zdb details :-( I should have read the mail carefully. Thanks and

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread Marc Bevand
Mattias Pantzare gmail.com> writes: > > He was talking about errors that the disk can't detect (errors > introduced by other parts of the system, writes to the wrong sector or > very bad luck). You can simulate that by writing diffrent data to the > sector, Well yes you can. Carsten and I are bo

Re: [zfs-discuss] read/write errors on storage pool (poss. ahci/hw related?)

2008-12-31 Thread Jay
hi richard, the bugs database ... figures ... now that you said it, it's really quite obvious :) thanks, and thanks for the hint towards the drivers-discuss forum. bye, jay -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ive studied all links here. But I want information of the HW raid controllers. Not about ZFS, because I have plenty of ZFS information now. The closest thing I got was www.baarf.org Where in one article he states that "raid5 never does parity check on reads". Ive wrote that to the Linux guys. An

Re: [zfs-discuss] Redundancy for /opt by raidz?

2008-12-31 Thread Vincent Fox
>Dear Admin >u said: >choose a 3-disk RAID-1 or a 4-disk RAID10 >set for tank over RAIDZ aWith a 3-disk mirror you'd have a disk left over >to be hot spare for failure in either rpool or tank. >why do u prefer raid1 with one spare rather than raidz? >i heard raidz has better redundancy than raid 1

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread Richard Elling
Orvar Korvar wrote: > Ive studied all links here. But I want information of the HW raid > controllers. Not about ZFS, because I have plenty of ZFS information now. The > closest thing I got was > www.baarf.org > [one of my favorite sites ;-)] The problem is that there is no such thing as "har

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread Dave Brown
There is a company (DataCore Software) that has been making / shipping products for many years that I believe would help in this area. I've used them before, they're very solid and have been leveraging the use of commodity server and disk hardware to build massive storage arrays (FC & iSCSI),

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread Miles Nordin
> "ca" == Carsten Aulbert writes: > "ok" == Orvar Korvar writes: ca> (using hdparm's utility makebadsector) I haven't used that before, but it sounds like what you did may give the RAID layer some extra information. If one of the disks reports ``read error---I have no idea what's s

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread Miles Nordin
> "db" == Dave Brown writes: db> CRC/Checksum Error Detection In SANmelody and SANsymphony, db> enhanced error detection can be provided by enabling Cyclic db> Redundancy Check (CRC) [...] The CRC bits may db> be added to either Data Digest, Header Digest, or both. Thanks for

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread Tim
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Miles Nordin wrote: > > "db" == Dave Brown writes: > >db> CRC/Checksum Error Detection In SANmelody and SANsymphony, >db> enhanced error detection can be provided by enabling Cyclic >db> Redundancy Check (CRC) [...] The CRC bits may >db> be a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread JZ
"The problem is that there is no such thing as "hardware RAID" there is only "software RAID." The "HW RAID" controllers are processors running software and the features of the product are therefore limited by the software developer and processor capabilities. I goes without saying that the proces

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread JZ
Happy new year! Snowing here and my new year party was cancelled. Ok, let me do more boring IT stuff then. Orvar, sorry I misunderstood you. Please feel free to explore the limitations of hardware RAID, and hopefully one day you will come to a conclusion that -- it was invented for saving CPU ju