[zfs-discuss] Is It a SATA problem or there is something else !!!!!!

2008-10-06 Thread Anas Ayad
Hi there I post this problem in Xen discussion before but with different title, I thought it is something has to do with the memory .. so guys can you read the thread first !! http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=76870&tstart=0 I tried this yesterday , I brought my friend

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Fusion-IO?

2008-10-06 Thread Ross
Just a thought, will we be able to split the ioDrive into slices and use it simultaneously as a ZIL and slog device? 5GB of write cache and 75GB of read cache sounds to me like a nice way to use the 80GB model. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Ross
Very interesting idea, thanks for sharing it. Infiniband would definately be worth looking at for performance, although I think you'd need iSER to get the benefits and that might still be a little new: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/iser/Release-notes/. It's also worth bearing in mind

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is It a SATA problem or there is something else !!!!!!

2008-10-06 Thread Sanjeev
Anas, Are both (IDE and SATA) disks plugged in ? I had similar problems where the machine woudl just drop into GRUB and never boot up despite giving the right GRUB commands. I finally disconnected the IDE disk and things are fine now. Thanks and regards, Sanjeev. On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:03:0

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solved - a big THANKS to Victor Latushkin @ Sun / Moscow

2008-10-06 Thread Darren J Moffat
Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Vasile Dumitrescu > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> VMWare 6.0.4 running on Debian unstable, >> Linux bigsrv 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Sep 24 13:59:41 UTC 2008 x86_64 >> GNU/Linux >> >> Solaris is vanilla snv_90 installed with no GUI. >

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Fwd: Re: ZSF Solaris]

2008-10-06 Thread Pramod Batni
Original Message Subject:Re: [zfs-discuss] ZSF Solaris Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:21:56 +0200 From: Jens Elkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Moore, Joe
Nicolas Williams wrote > There have been threads about adding a feature to support slow mirror > devices that don't stay synced synchronously. At least IIRC. That > would help. But then, if the pool is busy writing then your slow ZIL > mirrors would generally be out of sync, thus being of no hel

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA/SAS (Re: Quantifying ZFS reliability)

2008-10-06 Thread Richard Elling
Anton B. Rang wrote: > Erik: > >>> (2) a SAS drive has better throughput and IOPs than a SATA drive >>> > > Richard: > >> Disagree. We proved that the transport layer protocol has no bearing >> on throughput or iops. Several vendors offer drives which are >> identical in all respect

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import of bootable root pool renders it unbootable

2008-10-06 Thread andrew
> I've upgraded to b98, checked if zpool.cache is not > being added to > boot archive and tried to boot from VB by presenting > a prtition to it. > It didn't. I got it working by installing a new build of OpenSolaris 2008.11 from scratch rather than upgrading, but deleting zpool.cache, deleting b

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import of bootable root pool renders it unbootable

2008-10-06 Thread Jürgen Keil
> Cannot mount root on /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci103c,[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL > PROTECTED],0:a fstype zfs Is that physical device path correct for your new system? Or is this the physical device path (stored on-disk in the zpool label) from some other system? In this case you may be able to

[zfs-discuss] zpool imports are slow when importing multiple storage pools

2008-10-06 Thread Luke Schwab
Hi, I am having a problem running zpool imports when we import multiple storage pools at one time. Below are the details of the setup: - We are using a SAN with Sun 6140 storage arrays. - Dual port HBA on each server is Qlogic running the QLC driver with Sun mpxio(SFCSM) running. - We have 400

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool imports are slow when importing multiple storage pools

2008-10-06 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 06 October, 2008 - Luke Schwab sent me these 2,0K bytes: > Is this a design choice with ZFS coding or a bug? Is there anything I > can do to increase my import times? We do have the same setup on one > of our SANs with only 10-20 luns instead of 400+ and the imports take > only 1-3 seconds. My

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool imports are slow when importing multiple storage pools

2008-10-06 Thread Richard Elling
Do you have a lot of snapshots? If so, CR 6612830 could be contributing. Alas, many such fixes are not yet available in S10. -- richard Luke Schwab wrote: > Hi, > I am having a problem running zpool imports when we import multiple storage > pools at one time. Below are the details of the setup:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Fusion-IO?

2008-10-06 Thread Ross
D'oh, meant ZIL / slog and L2ARC device. Must have posted that before my early morning cuppa! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread C. Bergström
Hi all In another thread a short while ago.. A cool little movie with some gumballs was all we got to learn about green-bytes. The product launched and maybe some of the people that follow this list have had a chance to take a look at the code/product more closely? Wstuart asked how they wer

Re: [zfs-discuss] Root pool mirror wasn't automatically configured during install

2008-10-06 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Eric Boutilier wrote: >> Is the following issue related to (will probably get fixed by) bug 6748133? >> ... >> >> During a net-install of b96, I modified the name of the root pool, >> overriding the default name, rpool. After the install, the pool wa

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/06/2008 01:57:10 PM: > Hi all > > In another thread a short while ago.. A cool little movie with some > gumballs was all we got to learn about green-bytes. The product > launched and maybe some of the people that follow this list have had a > chance to take a look at

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread C. Bergström
Matt Aitkenhead wrote: > I see that you have wasted no time. I'm still determining if you have a > sincere interest in working with us or alternatively have an axe to grind. > The latter is shining through. > > Regards, > Matt > Hi Matt, I'd like to make our correspondence in public if you do

[zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-06 Thread mike
I posted a thread here... http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=596 I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) I need

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Tim
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM, "C. Bergström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Matt Aitkenhead wrote: > > I see that you have wasted no time. I'm still determining if you have a > sincere interest in working with us or alternatively have an axe to grind. > The latter is shining through. > > > > Regard

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool imports are slow when importing multiple storage pools

2008-10-06 Thread Scott Williamson
Speaking of this, is there a list anywhere that details what we can expect to see for (zfs) updates in S10U6? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Do you have a lot of snapshots? If so, CR 6612830 could be contributing. > Alas, many such fixes are not yet av

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Tim wrote: > ZFS is licensed under the CDDL, and as far as I know does not require > derivative works to be open source. It's truly free like the BSD license in It doesn't, but changes made to CDDL-licensed files must be released (under the CDDL). > that companies can take C

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Wade . Stuart
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM, "C. Bergström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > Matt Aitkenhead wrote: > > I see that you have wasted no time. I'm still determining if you > have a sincere interest in working with us or alternatively have an > axe to grind. The latter is shining through. > > > >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ZFS is licensed under the CDDL, and as far as I know does not require > derivative works to be open source. It's truly free like the BSD license in > that companies can take CDDL code, modify it, and keep the content closed. > They are not forced to share their co

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 11:30:54PM -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote: > > There have been threads about adding a feature to support slow mirror > devices that don't stay synced synchronously. At least IIRC. That > would help. But then, if the pool is busy writing then your slow ZIL That would defi

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 10:47:04AM -0400, Moore, Joe wrote: > > I wonder if an AVS-replicated storage device on the backends would be > appropriate? > > write -> ZFS-mirrored slog -> ramdisk -AVS-> physical disk >\ > +-iscsi-> ramdisk -AVS-> physical disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 05:38:33PM -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: > On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 11:30:54PM -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote: > > There have been threads about adding a feature to support slow mirror > > devices that don't stay synced synchronously. At least IIRC. That > > would help. But

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: >> While you may not like it, this isn't the GPL. > > The GPL is more free than many people may believe now ;-) > > The GPL is unfortunately missunderstood by most people. The GPL is missunderstood due the profusion of confusing technobabble such as you

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 10:47:04AM -0400, Moore, Joe wrote: > > I wonder if an AVS-replicated storage device on the backends would be > appropriate? > > write -> ZFS-mirrored slog -> ramdisk -AVS-> physical disk >\ > +-iscsi-> ramdisk -AVS-> physical disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bob Friesenhahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The GPL is unfortunately missunderstood by most people. > > The GPL is missunderstood due the profusion of confusing technobabble > such as you provided in your explanation. If you don't understand it, just don't comment it ;-) Jörg -- EMail:[EM

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 01:13:40AM -0700, Ross wrote: > > It's also worth bearing in mind that you can have multiple mirrors. I don't > know what effect that will have on the performance, but it's an easy way to > boost the reliability even further. I think this idea configured on a set of >

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool imports are slow when importing multiple storage pools

2008-10-06 Thread Richard Elling
Scott Williamson wrote: > Speaking of this, is there a list anywhere that details what we can > expect to see for (zfs) updates in S10U6? The official release name is "Solaris 10 10/08" http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/10 has links to "what's new" videos. When the release is downloadable,

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Fwd: Re: ZSF Solaris]

2008-10-06 Thread Jens Elkner
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 08:01:39PM +0530, Pramod Batni wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 09:44:21PM -0500, Al Hopper wrote: > > > > This behavior is common to tmpfs, UFS and I tested it on early ZFS > > releases. I have no idea why - I have not made the time to figure it > > out. What I have ob

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Fwd: Re: ZSF Solaris]

2008-10-06 Thread Pramod Batni
Jens Elkner wrote: On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 08:01:39PM +0530, Pramod Batni wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 09:44:21PM -0500, Al Hopper wrote: This behavior is common to tmpfs, UFS and I tested it on early ZFS releases. I have no idea why - I have not made the time to figure it out. Wh

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Ross
> Or would they? A box dedicated to being a RAM based > slog is going to be > faster than any SSD would be. Especially if you make > the expensive jump > to 8Gb FC. Not necessarily. While this has some advantages in terms of price & performance, at ~$2400 the 80GB ioDrive would give it a run f