Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-25 Thread Erik Trimble
Miles Nordin wrote: "et" == Erik Trimble writes: et> I'd still get the 7310 hardware. et> Worst case scenario is that you can blow away the AmberRoad okay but, AIUI he was saying pricing is 6% more for half as much physical disk. This is also why it ``uses less energy''

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-25 Thread Miles Nordin
> "et" == Erik Trimble writes: et> I'd still get the 7310 hardware. et> Worst case scenario is that you can blow away the AmberRoad okay but, AIUI he was saying pricing is 6% more for half as much physical disk. This is also why it ``uses less energy'' while supposedly filling the s

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-24 Thread Erik Trimble
Erik Trimble wrote: Miles Nordin wrote: "lz" == Len Zaifman writes: lz> So I now have 2 disk paths and two network paths as opposed to lz> only one in the 7310 cluster. You're configuring all your failover on the client, so the HA stuff is stateless wrt the server? so

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-24 Thread Erik Trimble
Miles Nordin wrote: "lz" == Len Zaifman writes: lz> So I now have 2 disk paths and two network paths as opposed to lz> only one in the 7310 cluster. You're configuring all your failover on the client, so the HA stuff is stateless wrt the server? sounds like the smart w

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-23 Thread Miles Nordin
> "lz" == Len Zaifman writes: lz> So I now have 2 disk paths and two network paths as opposed to lz> only one in the 7310 cluster. You're configuring all your failover on the client, so the HA stuff is stateless wrt the server? sounds like the smart way since you control both ends

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-23 Thread Erik Trimble
Get the 7310 setup. Vs. the X4540 it is: (1) less configuration on your clients (2) instant failover with no intervention on your part (3) less expensive (4) expandable to 3x your current disk space (5) lower power draw & less rack space (6) So Simple, A Caveman Could Do It (tm) -Erik On Mon,

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-23 Thread David Magda
On Nov 23, 2009, at 14:46, Len Zaifman wrote: Under these circumstances what advantage would a 7310 cluster over 2 X4540s backing each other up and splitting the load? Do you want to worry about your storage system at 3 AM? That's what all these appliances (regardless of vendor) get you for

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-23 Thread Trevor Pretty
Len Zaifman wrote: Under these circumstances what advantage would a 7310 cluster over 2 X4540s backing each other up and splitting the load? FISH!  My wife could drive a 7310 :-) www.eagle.co.nz  This email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If received in error plea

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-23 Thread Scott Meilicke
If the 7310s can meet your performance expectations, they sound much better than a pair of x4540s. Auto-fail over, SSD performance (although these can be added to the 4540s), ease of management, and a great front end. I haven't seen if you can use your backup software with the 7310s, but from

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-23 Thread Len Zaifman
I asked this question a week ago but now I have what I feel are reasonable pricing numbers : For 2 X4540s (24 TB each) I pay 6% more than for one 7310 redundant cluster (2 7310s in a cluster configuration) with 22 TB of disk and 2 x 18 GB SSDs. I lose live redundancy, but can switch the filer

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-20 Thread Len Zaifman
mof...@sun.com] On Behalf Of Darren J Moffat [darr...@opensolaris.org] Sent: November 18, 2009 12:10 PM To: Len Zaifman Cc: storage-disc...@opensolaris.org; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage Len Zaifman wrote: > We are looking at addi

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-18 Thread Erik Trimble
Darren J Moffat wrote: Len Zaifman wrote: We are looking at adding to our storage. We would like ~20TB-30 TB. we have ~ 200 nodes (1100 cores) to feed data to using nfs, and we are looking for high reliability, good performance (up to at least 350 MBytes /second over 10 GigE connection) and

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-18 Thread Jacob Ritorto
I don't wish to hijack, but along these same comparing lines, is there anyone able to compare the 7200 to the HP LeftHand series? I'll start another thread if this goes too far astray. thx jake Darren J Moffat wrote: Len Zaifman wrote: We are looking at adding to our storage. We would li

Re: [zfs-discuss] X45xx storage vs 7xxx Unified storage

2009-11-18 Thread Darren J Moffat
Len Zaifman wrote: We are looking at adding to our storage. We would like ~20TB-30 TB. we have ~ 200 nodes (1100 cores) to feed data to using nfs, and we are looking for high reliability, good performance (up to at least 350 MBytes /second over 10 GigE connection) and large capacity. For th