Re: [zfs-discuss] Usage of hot spares and hardware allocation capabilities.

2010-03-21 Thread zfs ml
On 3/21/10 4:19 AM, Robin Axelsson wrote: The motherboard is AMD based and it has two controllers; one OnChip controller that is integrated into the SouthBridge chip (SB750) and an OnBoard controller using the JMicron JMB362 chip and a JMB322 port multiplier. Both controllers supports both AHC

Re: [zfs-discuss] Usage of hot spares and hardware allocation capabilities.

2010-03-21 Thread Robin Axelsson
The motherboard is AMD based and it has two controllers; one OnChip controller that is integrated into the SouthBridge chip (SB750) and an OnBoard controller using the JMicron JMB362 chip and a JMB322 port multiplier. Both controllers supports both AHCI and Native IDE mode which can be configure

Re: [zfs-discuss] Usage of hot spares and hardware allocation capabilities.

2010-03-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010, Robin Axelsson wrote: My idea is rather that the "hot spares" (or perhaps we should say "cold spares" then) are off all the time until they are needed or when a user initiated/scheduled system integrity check is being conducted. They could go up for a "test spin" at each o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Usage of hot spares and hardware allocation capabilities.

2010-03-20 Thread Tonmaus
> I know about those SoHo boxes and the whatnot, they > keep spinning up and down all the time and the worst > thing is that you cannot disable this sleep/powersave > feature on most of these devices. That to judge is in the eye of the beholder. We have a couple of Thecus NAS boxes and some LVM R

Re: [zfs-discuss] Usage of hot spares and hardware allocation capabilities.

2010-03-20 Thread Robin Axelsson
I know about those SoHo boxes and the whatnot, they keep spinning up and down all the time and the worst thing is that you cannot disable this sleep/powersave feature on most of these devices. I believe I have seen a "sleep mode" support when I skimmed through the feature lists of the LSI contro

Re: [zfs-discuss] Usage of hot spares and hardware allocation capabilities.

2010-03-20 Thread Tonmaus
> So, is there a > sleep/hibernation/standby mode that the hot spares > operate in or are they on all the time regardless of > whether they are in use or not? This depends on the power-save options of your hardware, not on ZFS. Arguably, there is less ware on the heads for a hot spare. I guess th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Usage of hot spares and hardware allocation capabilities.

2010-03-19 Thread Khyron
Responses inline... On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 07:35, Robin Axelsson wrote: > I've been informed that newer versions of ZFS supports the usage of hot > spares which is denoted for drives that are not in use but available for > resynchronization/resilvering should one of the original drives fail in t