Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-03-01 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010, Jens Elkner wrote: > At least on S10u8 its not that bad. Last time I patched and rebooted > a X4500 with ~350 ZFS it took about 10min to come up, a X4600 with > a 3510 and ~2350 ZFS took about 20min (almost all are shared via NFS). Our x4500's with about 8000 filesystems per

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-28 Thread Orvar Korvar
Speaking of long boot times, Ive heard that IBM power servers boot in 90 minutes or more. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-27 Thread Jens Elkner
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 09:25:57PM -0700, Eric D. Mudama wrote: ... > I agree with the above, but the best practices guide: > > http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#ZFS_file_service_for_SMB_.28CIFS.29_or_SAMBA > > states in the SAMBA section that "Beware that mo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-26 Thread Richard Elling
On Feb 26, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Feb 26, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Eric D. Mudama wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 25 at 20:21, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Alastair Neil wrote: >>> I do not know and I don't think anyone would deploy a system in that way with UFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-26 Thread Alastair Neil
Ironically It's nfs exporting that is the real hog, cifs shares seem to come up pretty fast. The fact that cifs shares can be fast makes it hard for me to understand why Sun/Oracle seem to be making such a meal of this bug. Possibly because it only critically affects poor universities and not clie

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-26 Thread Richard Elling
On Feb 26, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Eric D. Mudama wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25 at 20:21, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Alastair Neil wrote: >> >>> I do not know and I don't think anyone would deploy a system in that way >>> with UFS. >>> This is the model that is imposed in order to take f

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-26 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Thu, Feb 25 at 20:21, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Alastair Neil wrote: I do not know and I don't think anyone would deploy a system in that way with UFS.  This is the model that is imposed in order to take full advantage of zfs advanced features such as snapshots, encryptio

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-25 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Alastair Neil wrote: I do not know and I don't think anyone would deploy a system in that way with UFS.  This is the model that is imposed in order to take full advantage of zfs advanced features such as snapshots, encryption and compression and I know many universities i

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-25 Thread Alastair Neil
I do not know and I don't think anyone would deploy a system in that way with UFS. This is the model that is imposed in order to take full advantage of zfs advanced features such as snapshots, encryption and compression and I know many universities in particular are eager to adopt it for just that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-25 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Alastair Neil wrote: I don't think I have seen this addressed in the follow-ups to your message.  One issue we have is with deploying large numbers of files systems per pool - not necessarily large numbers of disk.  There are major scaling issues with the sharing of large n

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-25 Thread Alastair Neil
I don't think I have seen this addressed in the follow-ups to your message. One issue we have is with deploying large numbers of files systems per pool - not necessarily large numbers of disk. There are major scaling issues with the sharing of large numbers of file systems, in my configuration I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-02-04 Thread Mertol Ozyoney
.ozyo...@sun.com -Original Message- From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Henrik Johansen Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:45 AM To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>2

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-01-29 Thread Henrik Johansen
On 01/29/10 07:36 PM, Richard Elling wrote: On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Henrik Johansen wrote: On 01/28/10 11:13 PM, Lutz Schumann wrote: While thinking about ZFS as the next generation filesystem without limits I am wondering if the real world is ready for this kind of incredible technology

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-01-29 Thread Bryan Allen
+-- | On 2010-01-29 10:36:29, Richard Elling wrote: | | Nit: Solaris 10 u9 is 10/03 or 10/04 or 10/05, depending on what you read. | Solaris 10 u8 is 11/09. Nit: S10u8 is 10/09. | Scrub I/O is given the lowest priority

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-01-29 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > On 01/28/10 11:13 PM, Lutz Schumann wrote: >> While thinking about ZFS as the next generation filesystem without >> limits I am wondering if the real world is ready for this kind of >> incredible technology ... >> >> I'm actually speaking of h

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

2010-01-29 Thread Henrik Johansen
On 01/28/10 11:13 PM, Lutz Schumann wrote: While thinking about ZFS as the next generation filesystem without limits I am wondering if the real world is ready for this kind of incredible technology ... I'm actually speaking of hardware :) ZFS can handle a lot of devices. Once in the import bug