Re: [zfs-discuss] Is file cloning anywhere on ZFS roadmap

2010-04-21 Thread Richard Elling
On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Schachar Levin wrote: > Hi, > We are currently using NetApp file clone option to clone multiple VMs on our > FS. In your use case, how do you isolate one VM from another? If they are both in the same file system, then they are not isolated. If they are not isolat

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is file cloning anywhere on ZFS roadmap

2010-04-21 Thread David Magda
On Wed, April 21, 2010 09:18, Schachar Levin wrote: > NetApp has the ability to instantly clone single files and that would also > solve our problem if its somewhere in ZFS road-map (unless the issues we > have above can be resolved) Beyond things like dedupe (and compression), ZFS currently does

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is file cloning anywhere on ZFS roadmap

2010-04-21 Thread Schachar Levin
f I could mount unlimited NFS mounts on ESX it would be good for me, but there is a 64 nfs datastore limit. Right now if I copy a big file it can take several minutes. I already tried having one VM per zfs file system, and snapshot & clone works great, as long as I stay below 64 NFS mounts. Note t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is file cloning anywhere on ZFS roadmap

2010-04-21 Thread Schachar Levin
If I could mount unlimited NFS mounts on ESX it would be good for me, but there is a 64 nfs datastore limit. Right now if I copy a big file it can take several minutes. I already tried having one VM per zfs file system, and snapshot & clone works great, as long as I stay below 64 NFS mounts. No

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is file cloning anywhere on ZFS roadmap

2010-04-21 Thread David Magda
On Wed, April 21, 2010 02:41, Schachar Levin wrote: > Hi, > We are currently using NetApp file clone option to clone multiple VMs on > our FS. > > ZFS dedup feature is great storage space wise but when we need to clone > allot of VMs it just takes allot of time. > > Is there a way (or a planned way

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is file cloning anywhere on ZFS roadmap

2010-04-21 Thread Marc Nicholas
You'd run out of LUN IDs on the VMware side pretty quickly (255 from what I remember). It's also not really VMware best practice for block. -marc On 4/21/10, Robert Milkowski wrote: > On 21/04/2010 07:41, Schachar Levin wrote: >> Hi, >> We are currently using NetApp file clone option to clone m

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is file cloning anywhere on ZFS roadmap

2010-04-21 Thread Robert Milkowski
On 21/04/2010 07:41, Schachar Levin wrote: Hi, We are currently using NetApp file clone option to clone multiple VMs on our FS. ZFS dedup feature is great storage space wise but when we need to clone allot of VMs it just takes allot of time. Is there a way (or a planned way) to clone a file wi