Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-12 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 12, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: >> From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] >> >> Pedantically, a pool can be made in a file, so it works the same... > > Pool can only be made in a file, by a system that is able to cre

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-12 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
Jim, I'm trying to contact you off-list, but it doesn't seem to be working. Can you please contact me off-list? ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-12 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-12 16:50, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) пишет: So he's looking for a way to do a "zfs receive" on a linux system, transported over ssh. Suggested answers so far include building a VM on the receiving side, to run openindiana (or whatever) or using zfs-fuse

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-12 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] > > Pedantically, a pool can be made in a file, so it works the same... Pool can only be made in a file, by a system that is able to create a pool. Point is, his receiving system runs linux and doesn't have any zfs; his receiving system

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-11 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 11, 2012, at 6:03 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: >> From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] >> >> Read it again he asked, "On that note, is there a minimal user-mode zfs thing >> that would allow >> receiving a stream into an image fil

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-11 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] > > Read it again he asked, "On that note, is there a minimal user-mode zfs thing > that would allow > receiving a stream into an image file?"  Something like: > zfs send ... | ssh user@host "cat > file" He didn't say he wanted to cat

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-10 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 10, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: >> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Richard Elling >> If the recipient system doesn't support "zfs receive," [...] >>> >>>

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-10 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Richard Elling > > >> If the recipient system doesn't support "zfs receive," [...] > > > > On that note, is there a minimal user-mode zfs thing that would allow > > receiving a stream into an i

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-08 Thread Tiernan OToole
Cool beans lads. Thanks! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Ian Collins wrote: > On 10/08/12 20:08, Tiernan OToole wrote: > >> Ok, so, after reading a bit more of this discussion and after playing >> around at the weekend, i have a couple of questions to ask... >> >> 1: Do my pools need to be the s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-08 Thread Ian Collins
On 10/08/12 20:08, Tiernan OToole wrote: Ok, so, after reading a bit more of this discussion and after playing around at the weekend, i have a couple of questions to ask... 1: Do my pools need to be the same? for example, the pool in the datacenter is 2 1Tb drives in Mirror. in house i have 5

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-08 Thread Tiernan OToole
Ok, so, after reading a bit more of this discussion and after playing around at the weekend, i have a couple of questions to ask... 1: Do my pools need to be the same? for example, the pool in the datacenter is 2 1Tb drives in Mirror. in house i have 5 200Gb virtual drives in RAIDZ1, giving 800Gb

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-07 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 7, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Johannes Totz wrote: > On 05/10/2012 15:01, Edward Ned Harvey > (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: >>> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >>> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tiernan OToole >>> >>> I am in the process of pl

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-07 Thread Johannes Totz
On 05/10/2012 15:01, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: >> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tiernan OToole >> >> I am in the process of planning a system which will have 2 ZFS >> servers, one on s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Frank Cusack
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Ian Collins wrote: > I do have a lot of what would appear to be unnecessary filesystems, but > after loosing the WAN 3 days into a large transfer, a change of tactic was > required! > I've recently (last year or so) gone the other way, and have made an effort to c

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Ian Collins
On 10/06/12 07:57, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Frank Cusack On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ian Collins wrote: I do have to suffer a slow, glitchy WAN to a re

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Frank Cusack > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ian Collins wrote: > I do have to suffer a slow, glitchy WAN to a remote server and rather than > send stream files, I broke the data on the re

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Frank Cusack
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ian Collins wrote: > I do have to suffer a slow, glitchy WAN to a remote server and rather than > send stream files, I broke the data *on the remote server* into a more > fine grained set of filesystems than I would do normally. In this case, I > made the director

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tiernan OToole > > I am in the process of planning a system which will have 2 ZFS servers, one on > site, one off site. The on site server will be used by workstations and > servers > in house

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Tiernan OToole
Thanks Ian. That sounds like an option also. The plan was to break up the file systems anyway, since some i will want to be replicated remotely, and others not as much. --Tiernan On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Ian Collins wrote: > On 10/05/12 21:36, Jim Klimov wrote: > >> 2012-10-05 11:17, Ti

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Ian Collins
On 10/05/12 21:36, Jim Klimov wrote: 2012-10-05 11:17, Tiernan OToole wrote: Also, as a follow up question, but slightly unrelated, when it comes to the ZFS Send, i could use SSH to do the send, directly to the machine... Or i could upload the compressed, and possibly encrypted dump to the serve

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Tiernan OToole
Thanks again Jim. Very handy info. This is now my weekend project, so hopefully things go well! --Tiernan On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: > 2012-10-05 13:13, Tiernan OToole wrote: > >> Thanks for that Jim! >> >> Sounds like a plan there... One question about the storing ZFS d

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-05 13:13, Tiernan OToole wrote: Thanks for that Jim! Sounds like a plan there... One question about the storing ZFS dumps in a file... So, the idea of storing the data in a SFTP server which has an unknown underlying file system... Is that defiantly off limits, or can it be done? Milea

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Tiernan OToole
Thanks for that Jim! Sounds like a plan there... One question about the storing ZFS dumps in a file... So, the idea of storing the data in a SFTP server which has an unknown underlying file system... Is that defiantly off limits, or can it be done? and should i be doing a full dump or just an incr

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-05 11:17, Tiernan OToole wrote: Also, as a follow up question, but slightly unrelated, when it comes to the ZFS Send, i could use SSH to do the send, directly to the machine... Or i could upload the compressed, and possibly encrypted dump to the server... Which, for resume-ability and spe