Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-06 Thread Aubrey Li
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Brandon High <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Aubrey Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Here, "zfs send tank/root > /mnt/root" doesn't work, "zfs send" can't accept >> a directory as an output. So I use zfs send and zfs receive: > > Really

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-06 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Albert Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raw disk images are, uh, nice and all, but I don't think that was what > Aubrey had in mind when asking zfs-discuss about a backup solution. This > is 2008, not 1960. But retro is in! The point that I didn't really make is t

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-06 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Aubrey Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here, "zfs send tank/root > /mnt/root" doesn't work, "zfs send" can't accept > a directory as an output. So I use zfs send and zfs receive: Really? zfs send just gives you a byte stream, and the shell redirects it to the file

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-06 Thread Aubrey Li
Hi Erik, Thanks for your instruction, but let me dig into details. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Erik Trimble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thus, you could do this: > > (1) Install system A No problem, :-) > (2) hook USB drive to A, and mount it at /mnt I created a zfs pool, and mount it at

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Albert Lee
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 11:53 -0700, Brandon High wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Aubrey Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > for windows we use ghost to backup system and recovery. > > can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? > > You could probably use a Ghost bootdisk to create an image

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Ross
Ghost should work just fine. It's not just a windows program, it's best used on a bootable cd or floppy (or network boot for the adventurous), and it'll backup any hard drive, not just windows. If you're using ghost it's always best to have a bootable CD or similar, since you can recover the d

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Aubrey Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for windows we use ghost to backup system and recovery. > can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? You could probably use a Ghost bootdisk to create an image of a OpenSolaris system. I've also used Drive Snapshot to image

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > P.S.: I am talking about the cpio program creating "cpio" archives and this > > is > > what I believe happens in flar. > > Not so sure - man flash_archive(4) you can choose the archiver you want > it to use. In terms of flar being extensible, it doesn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Erik Trimble
Aubrey Li wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Erik Trimble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that OpenSolaris 2008.5 is the same a Nevada b89, which >> definite _does_ have flar. >> > > No, OpenSolaris 200805 is based on b86, not b89. > And if you read indiana mailing lis

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Erik Trimble
Aubrey Li wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Hi list, >>> >>> for windows we use ghost to backup system and >>> recovery. >>> can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? >>> >>> I want to create a image and install to another >>> machine

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Aubrey Li
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Erik Trimble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aubrey Li wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 15:44 +0800, Aubrey Li wrote: > > for windows we use ghost to backup sys

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Erik Trimble
Aubrey Li wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 15:44 +0800, Aubrey Li wrote: >>> for windows we use ghost to backup system and >>> recovery. >>> can we do similar thing for solari

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Aubrey Li
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 15:44 +0800, Aubrey Li wrote: >> > for windows we use ghost to backup system and >> recovery. >> > can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? >> >> How about flar ? >> http://docs.sun.com/app

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Aubrey Li
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> for windows we use ghost to backup system and >> recovery. >> can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? >> >> I want to create a image and install to another >> machine, >> So that the personal config

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Tim Foster
Hi Joerg, On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 15:09 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 13:47 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > Isn't flar based on the outdated cpio? > > > > cpio was updated to support ZFS ACLs as part of "PSARC 2002/240 ZFS", if >

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Erik Trimble
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hey Joerg, >> >> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 13:47 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: >> How about flar ? http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-5668/flash-24?a=view [ I'm actually not sure if it's supported for zfs roo

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Erik Trimble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "bare-metal" restore generally means that you give it a piece of > hardware with nothing installed on it, boot it somehow, and the > "restore" program can bring the machine all the way back up to a > previously-stored state. > > Norton Ghost has two mai

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Joerg, > > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 13:47 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > How about flar ? > > > http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-5668/flash-24?a=view > > > [ I'm actually not sure if it's supported for zfs root though ] > > > > Isn't flar based on

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Erik Trimble
Joerg Schilling wrote: > "Richard L. Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Zfs has send and receive commands, which more or less correspond to >> ufsdump and ufsrestore for ufs, except that the names send and receive >> are perhaps more appropriate, since the zfs(1m) man page says: >>

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Tim Foster
Hey Joerg, On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 13:47 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > How about flar ? > > http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-5668/flash-24?a=view > > [ I'm actually not sure if it's supported for zfs root though ] > > Isn't flar based on the outdated cpio? cpio was updated to support ZFS A

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Richard L. Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zfs has send and receive commands, which more or less correspond to > ufsdump and ufsrestore for ufs, except that the names send and receive > are perhaps more appropriate, since the zfs(1m) man page says: > > The format of the stream is evolving

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 15:44 +0800, Aubrey Li wrote: > > for windows we use ghost to backup system and recovery. > > can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? > > How about flar ? > http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-5668/flash-24?a=view > [ I'm actuall

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 15:44 +0800, Aubrey Li wrote: > > for windows we use ghost to backup system and > recovery. > > can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? > > How about flar ? > http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-5668/flash-24?a=v > iew > [ I'm actually not sure if it's supported for

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Tim Foster
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 15:44 +0800, Aubrey Li wrote: > for windows we use ghost to backup system and recovery. > can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? How about flar ? http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-5668/flash-24?a=view [ I'm actually not sure if it's supported for zfs root though ]

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> Hi list, > > for windows we use ghost to backup system and > recovery. > can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? > > I want to create a image and install to another > machine, > So that the personal configuration will not be lost. Since I don't do Windows, I'm not familiar with ghost, but

Re: [zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> Hi list, > > for windows we use ghost to backup system and > recovery. > can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? > > I want to create a image and install to another > machine, > So that the personal configuration will not be lost. Since I don't do Windows, I'm not familiar with ghost, but

[zfs-discuss] system backup and recovery

2008-06-05 Thread Aubrey Li
Hi list, for windows we use ghost to backup system and recovery. can we do similar thing for solaris by ZFS? I want to create a image and install to another machine, So that the personal configuration will not be lost. Thanks, -Aubrey ___ zfs-discuss m