Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-19 Thread Ian Collins
On 09/19/12 02:38 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 09/18/2012 04:31 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: Can I actually have a year's worth of snapshots in zfs without too much performance degradation? Each additional dataset (not sure about snapshots, though) increases boot times slightly, however, I've seen po

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 05:30:56PM +0200, Erik Ableson wrote: > > If you're running ESXi with a vSphere license, I'd recommend looking at VDR > (free with the vCenter license) for backing up the VMs to the little HPs > since you get compressed and deduplicated backups that will minimize the > r

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Erik Ableson wrote: > >> >> The bigger issue you'll run into will be data sizing as a year's worth of >> snapshot basically means that you're keeping a journal of every single >> write th

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Erik Ableson wrote: The bigger issue you'll run into will be data sizing as a year's worth of snapshot basically means that you're keeping a journal of every single write that's occurred over the year. If you are running The above is not a correct statement. The snapsho

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Richard Elling wrote: On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:31 AM, Eugen Leitl > wrote: Can I actually have a year's worth of snapshots in zfs without too much performance degradation? I've got 6 years of snapshots with no degradation :-) $ zfs list -t snapshot -r export/home | wc -l

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Edmund White
I've installed a good number of all-in-one ZFS solutions, mostly based around NexentaStor and VMWare ESXi on HP ProLiant hardware. An example of this is documented on Server Fault at: http://serverfault.com/a/398579/13325 -- Edmund White ewwh...@mac.com On 9/18/12 10:31 AM, "Eugen Leitl" wr

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Richard Elling
On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:31 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > Can I actually have a year's worth of snapshots in > zfs without too much performance degradation? I've got 6 years of snapshots with no degradation :-) In general, there is not a direct correlation between snapshot count and performance. --

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Erik Ableson
On 18 sept. 2012, at 16:40, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > On 9/18/2012 10:31 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: >> I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of >> >> http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html >> >> with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 >> other (HP N40L-based)

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Hearn, Christopher
On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: On 9/18/2012 10:31 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 other (HP N40L-based) zfs boxes for produc

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Christopher Hearn
On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > On 9/18/2012 10:31 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: >> I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of >> >> http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html >> >> with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 >> other (HP N40L-based)

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
On 9/18/2012 10:31 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 other (HP N40L-based) zfs boxes for production in our organisation. The systems themselves would

Re: [zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 09/18/2012 04:31 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of > > http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html > > with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 > other (HP N40L-based) zfs boxes for production in > our organisation. The systems t

[zfs-discuss] all in one server

2012-09-18 Thread Eugen Leitl
I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3 other (HP N40L-based) zfs boxes for production in our organisation. The systems themselves would be either Dell or Supermicro (latter with Z