Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-16 Thread Dave Pooser
On 9/16/12 10:40 AM, "Richard Elling" wrote: >With a zvol of 8K blocksize, 4K sector disks, and raidz you will get 12K >(data >plus parity) written for every block, regardless of how many disks are in >the set. >There will also be some metadata overhead, but I don't know of a metadata >sizing for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-16 Thread Richard Elling
On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Dave Pooser wrote: > >> The problem: so far the send/recv appears to have copied 6.25TB of >> 5.34TB. >> That... doesn't look right. (Comparing zfs list -t snapshot and looking at >> the 5.34 ref for the snapshot v

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-16 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: > There's another lesson to be learned here. > > As mentioned by Matthew, you can tweak your reservation (or refreservation) > on the zvol, but you do so at your own risk, possibly putting yourself in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-16 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Bill Sommerfeld > > > But simply creating the snapshot on the sending side should be no > problem. > > By default, zvols have reservations equal to their size (so that writes > don't fail due

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-15 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Dave Pooser wrote: > The problem: so far the send/recv appears to have copied 6.25TB of 5.34TB. > That... doesn't look right. (Comparing zfs list -t snapshot and looking at > the 5.34 ref for the snapshot vs zfs list on the new system and looking at > space used.)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-15 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > On 09/14/12 22:39, Edward Ned Harvey > (**opensolarisisdeadlongliveopens**olaris) > wrote: > >> From: >> zfs-discuss-bounces@**opensolaris.org[mailto: >>> zfs-discuss- >>> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dave Pooser >>> >>> Unfortu

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Dave Pooser wrote: The problem: so far the send/recv appears to have copied 6.25TB of 5.34TB. That... doesn't look right. (Comparing zfs list -t snapshot and looking at the 5.34 ref for the snapshot vs zfs list on the new system and looking at space used.) Is this a p

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-15 Thread Dave Pooser
> The problem: so far the send/recv appears to have copied 6.25TB of 5.34TB. > That... doesn't look right. (Comparing zfs list -t snapshot and looking at > the 5.34 ref for the snapshot vs zfs list on the new system and looking at > space used.) > > Is this a problem? Should I be panicking yet? W

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-14 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On 09/14/12 22:39, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dave Pooser Unfortunately I did not realize that zvols require disk space sufficient to duplicate the zvol, and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-14 Thread Ian Collins
On 09/15/12 04:46 PM, Dave Pooser wrote: I need a bit of a sanity check here. 1) I have a a RAIDZ2 of 8 1TB drives, so 6TB usable, running on an ancient version of OpenSolaris (snv_134 I think). On that zpool (miniraid) I have a zvol (RichRAID) that's using almost the whole FS. It's shared out v

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-14 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dave Pooser > > Unfortunately I did not realize that zvols require disk space sufficient > to duplicate the zvol, and my zpool wasn't big enough. After a false start > (zpool add is dangerous w

[zfs-discuss] Zvol vs zfs send/zfs receive

2012-09-14 Thread Dave Pooser
I need a bit of a sanity check here. 1) I have a a RAIDZ2 of 8 1TB drives, so 6TB usable, running on an ancient version of OpenSolaris (snv_134 I think). On that zpool (miniraid) I have a zvol (RichRAID) that's using almost the whole FS. It's shared out via COMSTAR Fibre Channel target mode. I'd l