Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and TRIM - No need for TRIM

2011-02-07 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Mon, Feb 7 at 20:43, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sun, 6 Feb 2011, Orvar Korvar wrote: 1) Using SSD without TRIM is acceptable. The only drawback is that without TRIM, the SSD will write much more, which effects life time. Because when the SSD has written enough, it will break. Why do you

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and TRIM - No need for TRIM

2011-02-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 6 Feb 2011, Orvar Korvar wrote: 1) Using SSD without TRIM is acceptable. The only drawback is that without TRIM, the SSD will write much more, which effects life time. Because when the SSD has written enough, it will break. Why do you think that the SSD should necessarily write much

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and TRIM - No need for TRIM

2011-02-06 Thread Erik Trimble
On 2/6/2011 3:51 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote: Ok, so can we say that the conclusion for a home user is: 1) Using SSD without TRIM is acceptable. The only drawback is that without TRIM, the SSD will write much more, which effects life time. Because when the SSD has written enough, it will break. I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and TRIM - No need for TRIM

2011-02-06 Thread Erik Trimble
On 2/6/2011 3:51 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote: Ok, so can we say that the conclusion for a home user is: 1) Using SSD without TRIM is acceptable. The only drawback is that without TRIM, the SSD will write much more, which effects life time. Because when the SSD has written enough, it will break. I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and TRIM - No need for TRIM

2011-02-06 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> 2) And later, when Solaris gets TRIM support, should I reformat or is > there no need to reformat? I mean, maybe I must format and reinstall > to get TRIM all over the disk. Or will TRIM immediately start to do > it's magic? Trim works on the device level, so a reformat won't be necessary Vennl

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and TRIM - No need for TRIM

2011-02-06 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ok, so can we say that the conclusion for a home user is: 1) Using SSD without TRIM is acceptable. The only drawback is that without TRIM, the SSD will write much more, which effects life time. Because when the SSD has written enough, it will break. I dont have high demands for my OS disk, so b

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and TRIM - No need for TRIM

2011-02-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Erik Trimble > > Bottom line, it's maybe $50 in parts, plus a $100k VLSI Engineer to do > the design. Well, only if there's a high volume. If you're only going to sell 10,000 of these device

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and TRIM - No need for TRIM

2011-02-05 Thread Erik Trimble
On 2/5/2011 5:44 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote: So... Sun's SSD used for ZIL and L2ARC does not use TRIM, so how big a problem is lack of TRIM in ZFS really? It should not hinder anyone to run without TRIM? I didnt really understand the answer on this question. Because Sun's SSD does not use TRIM - a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and TRIM - No need for TRIM

2011-02-05 Thread Orvar Korvar
So... Sun's SSD used for ZIL and L2ARC does not use TRIM, so how big a problem is lack of TRIM in ZFS really? It should not hinder anyone to run without TRIM? I didnt really understand the answer on this question. Because Sun's SSD does not use TRIM - and it is not consider a hinder? A home user