Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Snapshot management proposal idea

2006-05-09 Thread Constantin Gonzalez
Hi Tim, thank you for your comments. Bringing in SMF is an excellent idea and should make what admins like to do much more elegant. I guess the question here is to find out: - What degree of canned functionality is needed to address 80% of every admin's need. - Who should provide the functi

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Snapshot management proposal idea (was: Properties of ZFS snapshots I'd like to see...)

2006-05-08 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:23:44PM +0100, Tim Foster wrote: > This could be easily implemented via a set of SMF instances which > create/destroy cron jobs which would themselves call a simple script > responsible for taking the snapshots. There was talk a while back about an extended cron service

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Snapshot management proposal idea (was: Properties of ZFS snapshots I'd like to see...)

2006-05-08 Thread Sean McGrath - Sun Microsystems Ireland
Tim Foster stated: < Hey Constantin, < < On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 11:37 +0200, Constantin Gonzalez wrote: < > I took the liberty of renaming the thread to $SUBJECT because I think that what < > we really are looking for is an ability for ZFS to automatically manage snapshot < > after they have bee

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Snapshot management proposal idea (was: Properties of ZFS snapshots I'd like to see...)

2006-05-08 Thread Tim Foster
Hey Constantin, On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 11:37 +0200, Constantin Gonzalez wrote: > I took the liberty of renaming the thread to $SUBJECT because I think that > what > we really are looking for is an ability for ZFS to automatically manage > snapshot > after they have been created. Wow, nice summa

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Snapshot management proposal idea (was: Properties of ZFS snapshots I'd like to see...)

2006-05-08 Thread Al Hopper
On Mon, 8 May 2006, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > I think there may be a middle ground here -- provide some relatively > simple policy-independent mechanisms in the filesystem to allow admins > to implement the snapshot/backup management policy of their choice. > > I can think of a couple mechanisms wh

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Snapshot management proposal idea (was: Properties of ZFS snapshots I'd like to see...)

2006-05-08 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
I think there may be a middle ground here -- provide some relatively simple policy-independent mechanisms in the filesystem to allow admins to implement the snapshot/backup management policy of their choice. I can think of a couple mechanisms which would help: - additional admin-defined filesyst

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Snapshot management proposal idea (was: Properties of ZFS snapshots I'd like to see...)

2006-05-08 Thread Constantin Gonzalez
Hi, thank you for the excellent comments, thoughts and ideas on the "Properties of ZFS snapshots I'd like to see..." thread. I took the liberty of renaming the thread to $SUBJECT because I think that what we really are looking for is an ability for ZFS to automatically manage snapshot after they