Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-29 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 09:42:21AM +0100, Grégory Giannoni wrote: > > Le 29 nov. 2012 à 09:27, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit : > >> The LSI 9240-4I was not able to connect to the 25-drives bay ; Not tested > >> LSI 9260-16I or LSI 9280-24i. > >> > > > > What was the problem connecting LSI 9240-4i to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-29 Thread Grégory Giannoni
Le 29 nov. 2012 à 09:27, Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit : >> The LSI 9240-4I was not able to connect to the 25-drives bay ; Not tested >> LSI 9260-16I or LSI 9280-24i. >> > > What was the problem connecting LSI 9240-4i to the 25-drives bay? > The 25-drives backplane needs two SFF-8087 (multilane ca

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-29 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:52:06AM +0100, Grégory Giannoni wrote: > > The LSI 9240-4I was not able to connect to the 25-drives bay ; Not tested > LSI 9260-16I or LSI 9280-24i. > What was the problem connecting LSI 9240-4i to the 25-drives bay? -- Pasi

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-27 Thread Grégory Giannoni
>> [...] >> The results were the same with 10 or 25 drives, so I suspected either the >> PCI bus, either the expander in the 25-drives bay (HP 530946-001). >> Plugging the disks directly to the LSI card allowed to gain few MB/s : >> the expander was limiting a bit, but moreover, it disallowed to u

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-27 Thread Edmund White
On 11/27/12 1:52 AM, "Grégory Giannoni" wrote: > >Le 27 nov. 2012 à 01:17, Erik Trimble a écrit : > >> On 11/26/2012 12:54 PM, Grégory Giannoni wrote: >>> [snip] >>> I switched few month ago from Sun X45x0 to HP things : My fast NAS are >>>now DL 180 G6. I got better perfs using LSI 9240-8I rath

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-26 Thread Grégory Giannoni
Le 27 nov. 2012 à 01:17, Erik Trimble a écrit : > On 11/26/2012 12:54 PM, Grégory Giannoni wrote: >> [snip] >> I switched few month ago from Sun X45x0 to HP things : My fast NAS are now >> DL 180 G6. I got better perfs using LSI 9240-8I rather than HP SmartArray >> (tried P410 & P812). I'm usin

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-26 Thread Erik Trimble
On 11/26/2012 12:54 PM, Grégory Giannoni wrote: [snip] I switched few month ago from Sun X45x0 to HP things : My fast NAS are now DL 180 G6. I got better perfs using LSI 9240-8I rather than HP SmartArray (tried P410 & P812). I'm using only 600Gb SSD drives. That LSI controllers supports SATA II

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-26 Thread Grégory Giannoni
Le 24 nov. 2012 à 03:51, Erik Trimble a écrit : >> This is what we decided to do at work, and this is the reason why. >> But we didn't buy the appliance-branded boxes; we just bought normal servers >> running solaris. >> > > I gave up and am now buying HP-branded hardware for running Solaris on

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-26 Thread Robert Milkowski
> I am in the market for something newer than that, though. Anyone know > what HP's using as a replacement for the DL320s? I have no idea... but they have dl380 Gen8 with a disk plane supporting 25x 2.5" disks (all in front), and it is Sandy Bridge based. Oracle/Sun have X3-2L - 24x 2.5" disks

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-24 Thread Edmund White
On 11/24/12 5:51 PM, "Erik Trimble" wrote: >On 11/24/2012 5:17 AM, Edmund White wrote: >> Heh, I wouldn't be using G5's for ZFS purposes now. G6 and better >> ProLiants are a better deal for RAM capacity and CPU core countŠ >> >> Either way, I also use HP systems as the basis for my ZFS/Nexenta

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-24 Thread Erik Trimble
On 11/24/2012 5:17 AM, Edmund White wrote: Heh, I wouldn't be using G5's for ZFS purposes now. G6 and better ProLiants are a better deal for RAM capacity and CPU core countŠ Either way, I also use HP systems as the basis for my ZFS/Nexenta storage systems. Typically DL380's, since I have expansi

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-24 Thread Edmund White
Heh, I wouldn't be using G5's for ZFS purposes now. G6 and better ProLiants are a better deal for RAM capacity and CPU core countŠ Either way, I also use HP systems as the basis for my ZFS/Nexenta storage systems. Typically DL380's, since I have expansion room for either 16 drive bays, or for usin

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-23 Thread Erik Trimble
On 11/23/2012 5:50 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov I wonder if it would make weird sense to get the boxes, forfeit the cool-looking Fishworks, an

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-23 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov > > I wonder if it would make weird sense to get the boxes, forfeit the > cool-looking Fishworks, and install Solaris/OI/Nexenta/whatever to > get the most flexibility and bang for

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-22 Thread Robert Milkowski
>So, the only supported (or even possible) way is indeed to us it >as NAS for file or block IO from another head running the database >or application servers?.. Technically speaking you can get access to standard shell and do whatever you want - this would essentially void support contract though

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-22 Thread Ian Collins
On 11/23/12 05:50, Jim Klimov wrote: On 2012-11-22 17:31, Darren J Moffat wrote: Is it possible to use the ZFS Storage appliances in a similar way, and fire up a Solaris zone (or a few) directly on the box for general-purpose software; or to shell-script administrative tasks such as the backup a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-22 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: > On 2012-11-22 17:31, Darren J Moffat wrote: > >> Is it possible to use the ZFS Storage appliances in a similar >>> way, and fire up a Solaris zone (or a few) directly on the box >>> for general-purpose software; or to shell-script administrati

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-22 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2012-11-22 17:31, Darren J Moffat wrote: Is it possible to use the ZFS Storage appliances in a similar way, and fire up a Solaris zone (or a few) directly on the box for general-purpose software; or to shell-script administrative tasks such as the backup archive management in the global zone (

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-22 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 11/22/12 16:24, Jim Klimov wrote: A customer is looking to replace or augment their Sun Thumper with a ZFS appliance like 7320. However, the Thumper was used not only as a protocol storage server (home dirs, files, backups over NFS/CIFS/Rsync), but also as a general-purpose server with unpre

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Appliance as a general-purpose server question

2012-11-22 Thread Jim Klimov
A customer is looking to replace or augment their Sun Thumper with a ZFS appliance like 7320. However, the Thumper was used not only as a protocol storage server (home dirs, files, backups over NFS/CIFS/Rsync), but also as a general-purpose server with unpredictably-big-data programs running direc