Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Torrey McMahon
Matthew Ahrens wrote: Nicolas Dorfsman wrote: We need to think ZFS as ZFS, and not as a new filesystem ! I mean, the whole concept is different. Agreed. So. What could be the best architecture ? What is the problem? With UFS, I used to have separate metadevices/LUNs for each application.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Darren Dunham
> Including performance considerations ? > For instance, if I have two Oracle Databases with two I/O profiles (TP versus > Batch)...what would be the best : > > 1) Two pools, each one on two LUNs. Each LUN distributed on n trays. > 2) One pool on one LUN. This LUN distributed on 2 x n trays. > 3)

[zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Hi Matt, > > So. What could be the best architecture ? > > What is the problem? I/O profile isolation versus snap backing-store 'reservation' optimisation. > > With UFS, I used to have separate metadevices/LUNs for each > > application. With ZFS, I thought it would be nice to use a separate >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Nicolas Dorfsman wrote: We need to think ZFS as ZFS, and not as a new filesystem ! I mean, the whole concept is different. Agreed. So. What could be the best architecture ? What is the problem? With UFS, I used to have separate metadevices/LUNs for each application. With ZFS, I thought it

[zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
> If you want to copy your filesystems (or snapshots) > to other disks, you > can use 'zfs send' to send them to a different pool > (which may even be > on a different machine!). Oh no ! It means copy the whole filesystem. The target here is definitively to snapshot the filesystem and them backu

[zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Well. > ZFS isn't copy-on-write in the same way that things > like ufssnap are. > ufssnap is copy-on-write in that when you write > something, it copies out > the old data and writes it somewhere else (the > backing store). ZFS doesn't > need to do this - it simply writes the new data to a > new