Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-12 Thread Darren Dunham
> > *if* you already have the root filesystem under SVM in the first place, > > then no reboot should be required to add a mirror. And I assume that's > > all we're talking about for the ZFS mirroring as well. > > Is there any reason you'd have SVM on just the one partition? I can > see why you'd

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-12 Thread Dick Davies
On 12/03/07, Darren Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 11:21:13AM -0700, Frank Cusack wrote: > > On March 11, 2007 6:05:13 PM + Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >* ability to add disks to mirror the root filesystem at any time, > > > should they become avai

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-12 Thread Darren Dunham
> I know that with my FreeBSD system, I specified the RAID at the hardware > level then fdisk detected the volume as something I could install to... > Last time I tried that with Solaris, it didn't detect any drives. HW raid depends on the specific hardware and the existence of Solaris drivers to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-12 Thread Malachi de Ælfweald
I took a look at some Jumpstart instructions... As a n00b to Solaris Administration, I think I am likely to screw that up at the moment. I know that with my FreeBSD system, I specified the RAID at the hardware level then fdisk detected the volume as something I could install to... Last time I tr

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-12 Thread Darren Dunham
> I am getting ready to install a new server from scratch. While I had > been hoping to do a full-radiz2 system, from what I am understanding > here, my best bet is to still do a UFS drive for the root/boot > partition, since ZFS does not support dump. Is this correct? There is no official suppor

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-12 Thread Toby Thain
On 12-Mar-07, at 11:28 AM, Malachi de AElfweald wrote: ZFS supports swap to /dev/vzol, however, I do not have data related to performance. Also note that ZFS does not support dump yet, see RFE 5008936. I am getting ready to install a new server from scratch. While I had been hoping to do a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-12 Thread Kyle McDonald
Malachi de AElfweald wrote: 1) How do I at least mirror the root partition during install (instead of the convoluted after-the-fact instructions all over the net) Use Jumpstart. A profile to install your machine with mirroring should be pretty short, simple, and easy to create. It will be do

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-12 Thread Malachi de AElfweald
> ZFS supports swap to /dev/vzol, however, I do not > have data related to > performance. > Also note that ZFS does not support dump yet, see RFE > 5008936. I am getting ready to install a new server from scratch. While I had been hoping to do a full-radiz2 system, from what I am understanding h

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-12 Thread Enda O'Connor
Brian Hechinger wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 11:21:13AM -0700, Frank Cusack wrote: On March 11, 2007 6:05:13 PM + Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * ability to add disks to mirror the root filesystem at any time, should they become available Can't this be done with

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Darren Dunham
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 11:21:13AM -0700, Frank Cusack wrote: > > On March 11, 2007 6:05:13 PM + Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >* ability to add disks to mirror the root filesystem at any time, > > > should they become available > > > > Can't this be done with UFS+SVM as well?

RE: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Ellis, Mike
t to do?) Thoughts on this scenario working for the zfs-boot initial release? Thanks, -- MikeE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lin Ling Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:49 PM To: Matty Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Lin Ling
Matty wrote: How will /boot/grub/menu.lst be updated? Will the admin have to run bootadm after the root clone is created, or will the zfs utility be enhanced to populate / remove entries from the menu.lst? The detail of how menu.lst will be updated is still being worked out. We don't plan on u

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Matty
On 3/11/07, Lin Ling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Matty wrote: > I am curious how snapshots and clones will be integrated with grub. > Will it be posible to boot from a snapshot? I think this would be > useful when applying patches, since you could snapshot / ,/var and > /opt, patch the system, and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Lin Ling
Matty wrote: I am curious how snapshots and clones will be integrated with grub. Will it be posible to boot from a snapshot? I think this would be useful when applying patches, since you could snapshot / ,/var and /opt, patch the system, and revert back (by choosing a snapshot from the grub menu)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Robert Milkowski wrote: >> Hello Ivan, >> Sunday, March 11, 2007, 12:01:28 PM, you wrote: >> >> IW> Got it, thanks, and a more general question, in a single disk >> IW> root pool scenario, what advantage zfs will provide over ufs w/ >> IW> logging? And when zfs boot integrated in neveda, will l

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 11:21:13AM -0700, Frank Cusack wrote: > On March 11, 2007 6:05:13 PM + Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >* ability to add disks to mirror the root filesystem at any time, > > should they become available > > Can't this be done with UFS+SVM as well? A reboot wo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Frank Cusack
On March 11, 2007 6:05:13 PM + Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * ability to add disks to mirror the root filesystem at any time, should they become available Can't this be done with UFS+SVM as well? A reboot would be required but you have to do regular reboots anyway just for patc

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Tim Foster
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Ivan, Sunday, March 11, 2007, 12:01:28 PM, you wrote: IW> Got it, thanks, and a more general question, in a single disk IW> root pool scenario, what advantage zfs will provide over ufs w/ IW> logging? And when zfs boot integrated in neveda, will live upgrade work

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Matty
On 3/11/07, Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IW> Got it, thanks, and a more general question, in a single disk IW> root pool scenario, what advantage zfs will provide over ufs w/ IW> logging? And when zfs boot integrated in neveda, will live upgrade work with zfs > root? Snapshots/c

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Ivan, Sunday, March 11, 2007, 12:01:28 PM, you wrote: IW> Got it, thanks, and a more general question, in a single disk IW> root pool scenario, what advantage zfs will provide over ufs w/ IW> logging? And when zfs boot integrated in neveda, will live upgrade work with zfs root? Snapshots

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-11 Thread Ivan Wang
> > Ivan Wang wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > However, this raises another concert that during > recent discussions regarding to disk layout of a zfs > system > (http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID= > 25679&tstart=0) it was said that currently we'd > better give zfs the whole device (