Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-16 Thread gm_sjo
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The exception to the "rule" of multiple 12v output sections is PC >> Power & Cooling - who claim that there is no technical advantage to >> having multiple 12v outputs (and this "feature" is only a marketing >> gimmick). Bu

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-16 Thread mike
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The exception to the "rule" of multiple 12v output sections is PC > Power & Cooling - who claim that there is no technical advantage to > having multiple 12v outputs (and this "feature" is only a marketing > gimmick). But now

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread Al Hopper
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Will Murnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 23:51, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most 3.5" drives want about 30W at startup; that'd be around 780W with 16 drives. >>> I'm not sure what kind of math you're using here. >> >> Se

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 23:51, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Most 3.5" drives want >>> about 30W at startup; that'd be around 780W with 16 drives. >> I'm not sure what kind of math you're using here. > > See > http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/support/disc/manuals/desktop/Barracuda%2

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread Scott Laird
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Will Murnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:30, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Oh, also I kind of doubt that a 750W power supply will spin 16 disks >> up reliably. I have 10 in mine with a 600W supply, and it's >> borderline--10

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:30, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, also I kind of doubt that a 750W power supply will spin 16 disks > up reliably. I have 10 in mine with a 600W supply, and it's > borderline--10 drives work, 11 doesn't, and adding a couple extra PCI > cards has pushed mine

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread mike
Yeah for this plan I needed with 8 onboard SATA or another 8 port SATA controller, so I opted just to get two of the PCI-X ones. The Supermicro 5-in-3's don't have a fan alarm so you could remove it or find a quieter fan. I think most of them have quite noisy fans (the main goal for this besides l

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread mike
I was told here: http://discuss.extremetech.com/forums/permalink/1004422973/1004422973/ShowThread.aspx#1004422973 That I'd need at least 40amps - and this PSU has a 12V rail with 60amps... On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Scott Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, also I kind of doubt that a 75

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread Scott Laird
Oh, also I kind of doubt that a 750W power supply will spin 16 disks up reliably. I have 10 in mine with a 600W supply, and it's borderline--10 drives work, 11 doesn't, and adding a couple extra PCI cards has pushed mine over the edge before. Most 3.5" drives want about 30W at startup; that'd be

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread Scott Laird
The onboard SATA ports work on the PDSME+. One of these days I'm going to pick up a couple of Supermicro's 5-in-3 enclosures for mine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121405 Scott On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:26 AM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good news - I got s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread mike
Good news - I got snv_98 up without a hitch. So far, so good. Onboard video works great (well, console. Haven't used X11) Top NIC works great (e1000g) - haven't tried the second NIC Did not try the onboard SATA Two Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 PCI-X's working well Here's the specifics: - LIAN LI PC-V2

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-09 Thread mike
There's plenty of 8 port, either full 8 or 6+2 combinations etc. Anyway I went with a Supermicro PDSME+ which appears to work well according to the HCL, and bought two of the AOC-SAT2-MV8's and will just use those. It's actually being delivered today... On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Joe S <[EMA

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-09 Thread Joe S
You may need an add-on SATA card. I haven't come across any 8 port motherboards. As far as chipsets are concerned, take a look at something with the Intel X38 chipset. It's the only one of the desktop chipsets that supports ECC ram. Coincidentally, it's also the chipset used in the Sun Ultra 24 wo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-07 Thread mike
Yeah, I was scoping an Intel board - only one I could find had 8 SATA. However, couldn't find much info on support for those either. For this machine I need 16 ports and want 8 onboard SATA. It shouldn't be difficult, but I don't want to order something, find out it's not compatible, and have to r

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-07 Thread gm_sjo
2008/10/6 mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick > working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can > get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) > > I need 8 onboard SATA. I would prefer Intel

[zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-06 Thread mike
I posted a thread here... http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=596 I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) I need