Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-10-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 05:03:21PM -0700, Brandon High wrote: > Supermicro has a 3 x 5.25" bay rack that holds 5 x 3.5" drives. This > doesn't leave space for a optical drive, but I used a USB drive to > install the OS and don't need it anymore. I've had such a bay rack for years, and it survived

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-30 Thread Michael Shadle
i looked at possibly doing one of those too - but only 5 disks was too small for me. and i was too nervous about compatibility with mini-itx stuff. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Jorgen Lundman wrote: > > I too went with a 5in3 case for HDDs, in a nice portable Mini-ITX case, with > Intel Atom.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-30 Thread Jorgen Lundman
I too went with a 5in3 case for HDDs, in a nice portable Mini-ITX case, with Intel Atom. More of a SOHO NAS for home use, rather than a beast. Still, I can get about 10TB in it. http://lundman.net/wiki/index.php/ZFS_RAID I can also recommend the embeddedSolaris project for making a small boo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-30 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Ware Adams wrote: > SuperMicro 7046A-3 Workstation > http://supermicro.com/products/system/4U/7046/SYS-7046A-3.cfm I'm using a SuperChassis 743TQ-865B-SQ for my home NAS, which is what that workstation uses. It's very LARGE and very quiet. Did I mention it's HUGE?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-30 Thread erik.ableson
Heh :-) Disk usage is directly related to available space. At home I have a 4x1Tb raidz filled to overflowing with music, photos, movies, archives, and backups for 4 other machines in the house. I'll be adding another 4 and an SSD shortly. It starts with importing CDs into iTunes or WMP, t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:48 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > On Wed, September 30, 2009 07:14, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > For the money, it's a much better option. you'll be able to afford many > > more drives. In my opinion, for a home system, the more you can save on > > the > > case and powe

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-30 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Wed, September 30, 2009 07:14, Thomas Burgess wrote: > For the money, it's a much better option. you'll be able to afford many > more drives. In my opinion, for a home system, the more you can save on > the > case and power supply, the more hard drives you can buy. Right now 1 TB > and > 1.5

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:28 AM, wrote: > On Sep 29, 2009, at 2:41 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 06:04:01PM -0400, Thomas Burgess wrote: >> >>> personally i like this case: >>> >>> >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219021 >>> >>> it's got 20 hot sw

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Eugen Leitl wrote: No, basically all rackmount gear (especially 1-2 height units) which dissipates nontrivial power is loud, since it has to maintain air flow, which at small geometries means high-rpm and high-pitched noise. I've The good news is that high-pitched noise is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-29 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Tue, September 29, 2009 01:41, Eugen Leitl wrote: > Unless > it's for home use, where a downtime of days or weeks is not critical. I hate to think what would happen if I were to tell my housemates that critical services would be down for a WEEK! -- David Dyer-Bennet, d...@dd-b.net; http://dd

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-29 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:28:13AM -0400, rwali...@washdcmail.com wrote: > I agree completely with the ECC. It's for home use, so the power > supply issue isn't huge (though if it's possible that's a plus). My > concern with this particular option is noise. It will be in a closet, > but o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, rwali...@washdcmail.com wrote: I agree completely with the ECC. It's for home use, so the power supply issue isn't huge (though if it's possible that's a plus). My concern with this particular option is noise. It will be in a closet, but one with louvered doors right o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-29 Thread Paul Archer
You don't like http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/chassis_storage.cfm ? I must admit I don't have a price list of these. I am using an SC846xxx for a project here at work. The hardware consists of an ASUS server-level motherboard with 2 quad-core Xeons, 8GB of RAM, an LSI PCI-e SAS/SATA car

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-29 Thread Paul Archer
9:51am, Ware Adams wrote: On Sep 29, 2009, at 9:32 AM, p...@paularcher.org wrote: I am using an SC846xxx for a project here at work. The hardware consists of an ASUS server-level motherboard with 2 quad-core Xeons, 8GB of RAM, an LSI PCI-e SAS/SATA card, and 24 1.5TB HD, all in one of these ca

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-29 Thread paul
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 06:04:01PM -0400, Thomas Burgess wrote: >> personally i like this case: >> >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219021 >> >> it's got 20 hot swap bays, and it's surprisingly well built. For the >> money, >> it's an amazing deal. > > You don't lik

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-29 Thread rwalists
On Sep 29, 2009, at 2:41 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 06:04:01PM -0400, Thomas Burgess wrote: personally i like this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219021 it's got 20 hot swap bays, and it's surprisingly well built. For the money, it's an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-29 Thread Thomas Burgess
I think it *IS* for home use. I like the supermicro stuff, i just personally find it to be a little pricy for a home NAS. I personally find the norco 4020's to be the best deal for a home nas. I LOVE mine. I'm about to build a second one. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 06:04:01PM -0400, Thomas Burgess wrote: > personally i like this case: > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219021 > > it's got 20 hot swap bays, and it's surprisingly well built. For the money, > it's an amazing deal. You don't like http://www

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Michael Shadle
well when i start looking into rack configurations i will consider it. :) here's my configuration - enjoy! http://michaelshadle.com/2009/09/28/my-recipe-for-zfs-at-home/ On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: >  i own this case, it's really not that bad.  It's got 4 fans but they

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Thomas Burgess
i own this case, it's really not that bad. It's got 4 fans but they are really big and don't make nearly as much noise as you'd think. honestly, it's not bad at all. I know someone who sits it vertically as well, honestly, it's a good case for the money On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Michae

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Michael Shadle
rackmount chassis aren't usually designed with acoustics in mind :) however i might be getting my closet fitted so i can put half a rack in. might switch up my configuration to rack stuff soon. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: > personally i like this case: > > > http://www

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Thomas Burgess
personally i like this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219021 it's got 20 hot swap bays, and it's surprisingly well built. For the money, it's an amazing deal. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org htt

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Michael Shadle
Yeah - give me a bit to rope together the parts list and double check it, and I will post it on my blog. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Ware Adams wrote: > On Sep 28, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Michael Shadle wrote: > >> I agree - SOHO usage of ZFS is still a scary "will this work?" deal. I >> found a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Ware Adams
On Sep 28, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Michael Shadle wrote: I agree - SOHO usage of ZFS is still a scary "will this work?" deal. I found a working setup and I cloned it. It gives me 16x SATA + 2x SATA for mirrored boot, 4GB ECC RAM and a quad core processor - total cost without disks was ~ $1k I believe.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Michael Shadle
This seems like you're doing an awful lot of planning for only 8 SATA + 4 SAS bays? I agree - SOHO usage of ZFS is still a scary "will this work?" deal. I found a working setup and I cloned it. It gives me 16x SATA + 2x SATA for mirrored boot, 4GB ECC RAM and a quad core processor - total cost wit

[zfs-discuss] Comments on home OpenSolaris/ZFS server

2009-09-28 Thread Ware Adams
Hello, I have been researching building a home storage server based on OpenSolaris and ZFS, and I would appreciate any time people could take to comment on my current leanings. I've tried to gather old information from this list as well as the HCL, but I would welcome anyone's experience